Scottish Championships ????????

[Gus]

Trying to bring the thread away for inneundo re seduvers etc.

Re the Champs ... how do you think Scotland will fare? Have many of the Scotties done much competetion work before ... any closet stars to watch out for, aside from your all conquering display team?

[Tiggerbabe]

Originally posted by Gus
Trying to bring the thread away for inneundo re seduvers etc.

Re the Champs ... how do you think Scotland will fare? Have many of the Scotties done much competetion work before ... any closet stars to watch out for, aside from your all conquering display team?

ok Gus, you got me! Whats a seduver?

Well, there's Bill and Fran obviously - Bill, Laura and Lisa in the double trouble as well as Scot, Elaine and Shona - Elsie from Edinburgh is just brill! Melanie from Dundee is a fab dancer too but I've no idea who she will be dancing with (FC to the rest of you!)

There are a few really good dancers up here who do not like competitions ( Brian and the lovely Roy to name but two) so although, I'm sure, they'll be around for the freestyle they won't be competing.

[Gus]

Originally posted by Sheena


ok Gus, you got me! Whats a seduver?

Wait till I've had a few Becks and then I'll show you .. my dancing gets as bad as my spelling!

Originally posted by Sheena

Well, there's Bill and Fran obviously - Bill, Laura and Lisa in the double trouble as well as Scot, Elaine and Shona - Elsie from Edinburgh is just brill! Melanie from Dundee is a fab dancer too but I've no idea who she will be dancing with (FC to the rest of you!)

Is it fair to say you suffer from the same problem as us ... loads of good female dancers and not enough good male dancers to 'satisfy' them?

[John S]

Originally posted by Gus


Is it fair to say you suffer from the same problem as us ... loads of good female dancers and not enough good male dancers to 'satisfy' them?

I think that's probably a fair comment although I do worry a bit about the whole dance thing becoming over-competitive - fun and enjoyment should be the main aim (speaking of course as someone who knows his limitations when it comes to competitive standards!!!)

(Not specifically about the Championships, but perhaps related to Gus' comment):

It's always the case that a really good male lead can bring out the best in the lady he is dancing with, and she'll even raise her game to keep up with him, executing moves she didn't even know she could do, and feeling really great at the end of the dance.

However, if the lady is a lot better than her male lead, then the opposite doesn't often happen - instead the guy's insecurities take over and he's scared to try anything that might go wrong - result: an endless succession of Yo-yos and First Moves. (Or is that just me???? :sorry )

[DavidB]

Originally posted by Gus
loads of good female dancers and not enough good male dancers to 'satisfy' them?

So why not have a leading workshop to try and improve the standard of the men that you already have.

The main reason that most men don't lead well is because they don't know any different. They have never been taught anything about leading. They have to guess what to do by watching the teacher, or more likely the person standing next to them in a class. And it is really easy to lead badly.

The only problem you would have is that most men probably think they are good at leading, so would never go to a workshop. You might have to offer some incentive to go, like a discount on a freestyle night, or a free drink...

David

[Emma]

Originally posted by John S



It's always the case that a really good male lead can bring out the best in the lady he is dancing with, and she'll even raise her game to keep up with him, executing moves she didn't even know she could do, and feeling really great at the end of the dance.

However, if the lady is a lot better than her male lead, then the opposite doesn't often happen - instead the guy's insecurities take over and he's scared to try anything that might go wrong - result: an endless succession of Yo-yos and First Moves. (Or is that just me???? :sorry )

Surely that happens both ways around.. sometimes when I dance with someone who is much better than me I get really nervous and dance badly - and then the yoy-yos and first moves kick in - I assume because the guy I'm dancing with has taken pity on inexperienced me and lowered his game....

[Gus]

Originally posted by Heather

I'll leave him to you Gus- if he's at the Scottish Competition.
(Scot informs me we are not allowed to call it a Championship on orders from Ceroc HQ!!!!)

So what the h*ll are you supposed to call it????:reallymad

A competitive get together????

The thought does occur that Ceroc HQ is in London and there are an awfull lot of miles between them and Hadrians wall etc. What are they going to do ... stamp their feet and hold their breath till they go blue???

[John McAulay]

Originally posted by Gus
So what the h*ll are you supposed to call it????:reallymad

A competitive get together????

The thought does occur that Ceroc HQ is in London and there are an awfull lot of miles between them and Hadrians wall etc. What are they going to do ... stamp their feet and hold their breath till they go blue???

B******s to them!

Scottish Championship it is and alway will be,
no matter what some jumped up little squirt in englandshire thinks!

As long as the ceroc public see it as the scottish championships it won't matter what the ceroc company call it!

Regards

[DavidB]

Originally posted by John McAulay
no matter what some jumped up little squirt in englandshire thinks!

I can see it being called the 'Braveheart Competition' at this rate.

David

[Gus]

Originally posted by DavidB
I can see it being called the 'Braveheart Competition' at this rate.

David

The thought of hundreds of Scottish cerocers, dressed in kilts and war paint, descending as a screaming mob on Ceroc HQ has a certain attraction. Can I sell tickets ... I think it could be a winner!

[John McAulay]

Originally posted by DavidB
I can see it being called the 'Braveheart Competition' at this rate.

David

Far from it, all are welcome and will be received with open arms

But!

when you visit someone's home, you dont have the right to make up the rules.

Regards

[DavidB]

Originally posted by John McAulay
when you visit someone's home, you dont have the right to make up the rules.

We English never make up the rules. We just interpret the existing rules as we see fit...

David

[Gus]

To be fair to Ceroc HQ (and this is probably the first and last time I will be) I can see their point. They hold what they deem to be the UK Championships ... despite the fact its held in one small corner of it, well away from most Ceroc clubs and many of the best dancers (i.e. teachers) aren't allowed to enter.

They are probably trying to avoid a plethora of 'Chapionships' sprouting up ... in a bid to make their 'Championship' attain more kudos. At the moment ther is (after the demise of the original Championships, the LeJive ones) three, the Open Champs (Blackpool), Ceroc and the rather inferior LeRoc champs (Bristol).

I don't think that the Scottish champs has any paticular intent to compete to being a national championhsip like the rest ... in fact the title of Scottish Championships fairly well describes what it is. I truly hope it is an 'Open' champs, i.e. you don't have prove Scottish lineage to partake.

Will be interesting to see what happens ... when we finally get the rules etc.

[John S]

Originally posted by Gus

I truly hope it is an 'Open' champs, i.e. you don't have prove Scottish lineage to partake.

At the Blackpool Open, competitors didn't even have to be human - as those of you who were there will remember, a large yellow chicken did pretty well in the Dance With a Stranger competition!
(Quite appropriate for the Pet Hate thread, I suppose!).

[Heather]

You are right there John, I remember the chicken, he got through to the semi- finals didn't he!!!!!
Well, all comers are welcome here in Scotland, who knows we might even get entries from, shetland ponies, highland cattle, the famous grouse or maybe even the fabled haggis!!!!

[Gus]

Originally posted by Heather
You are right there John, I remember the chicken, he got through to the semi- finals didn't he!!!!!

Actualy the chicken got re-instated by popular demand into the final of the 'Dance with a stranger'. The guy inside was Dan Slape, who won the advanced section last year and came third in the Ceroc champs this year with a new partner. You should make sure he gets invited up ... he's very good and a nice chap to boot!