One for Barry

[Isis]

You posted this comment in quotation marks and stated that it was not just you and I who had an opinion on this parable:

I'll tell you another, now this is really anti-religious.

"That parable is a story of how preachers, knowing their God doesn't exist in any shape or form, and is thus unable to perform any 'miracles', try and falsely give their non-existant God credit for the works of mankind. It's a parable of 'spin' and theft of credit the Labour party would be proud of."

So you see, not just your interpretation and mine, but a myriad of them.

You now seem to be claiming that it is you who made up this quote:

The 'other opinion person' was me.

You couldn't have come up with that opinion if your life depended on it.

You are wrong.

Explain this contradiction

[Tiger Feet]

Explain this contradiction

Shall we maybe not hold our breath?

[Isis]

I have answered them. At least three times now. I can't help it if you cannot understand the answers.

You haven't answered.

You have now accused TF of talking like a 'religious nutjob'. She asked you to define a 'religious nutjob' (you keep complaining you haven't been allowed your own definitions - here's your chance) and quote her posts which back up that accusation.

[Isis]

Shall we maybe not hold our breath?

How about a little wager on how often in total he says 'That's textbook intolerance, that is' instead of answering a question?

Another wager on when he gives up and goes for the - *sigh* *shrug* 'understand now? I could explain everything but I can't be bothered. My work here is done' - rubbish.

You know, in much the same way, I could steal Brad Pitt away from the total sex bomb that is Angelina Jolie - but I can't be bothered.

[Tiger Feet]

You know, in much the same way, I could steal Brad Pitt away from the total sex bomb that is Angelina Jolie - but I can't be bothered.

If only you weren't lost in that quagmire of contradiction...

Obviously, I could, if I weren't hoisted by my own petard...

[Tiger Feet]

There is none so blind as those who will not see.

Out of interest Isis, in your vast, clinical experience, are there none so blind as those who will not see?

[Isis]

Out of interest Isis, in your vast, clinical experience, are there none so blind as those who will not see?

Those are the blindest, for sure.

[TA Guy]

Boy, you two should re-read this page when the red mist lifts. LOL.

Is it some kind of name calling convention for ten year olds where you are or something ?

I guess I have to leave you to stew in your own tripe.

[Tiger Feet]

Boy, you two should re-read this page when the red mist lifts. LOL.

Is it some kind of name calling convention for ten year olds where you are or something ?

I guess I have to leave you to stew in your own tripe.

Game, set and match?

Think I owe you £20 Isis. Maybe we could double or quits on whether he quotes any 'name calling'? I'm going for 'nay' on this occasion.

[Dreadful Scathe]

Game, set and match?

Think I owe you £20 Isis. Maybe we could double or quits on whether he quotes any 'name calling'? I'm going for 'nay' on this occasion.

hmm i'm thinking TA Guy has the intellectual high ground here

[Tiger Feet]

hmm i'm thinking TA Guy has the intellectual high ground here

I know! Look how low the bar had to be set for that to happen!

[Isis]

hmm i'm thinking TA Guy has the intellectual high ground here

How would you know how to identify the intellectual high ground?

[Dreadful Scathe]

How would you know how to identify the intellectual high ground?

it's big and shiny and populated by people who don't continually repost others comments without understanding them

and i have a telescope...

[Isis]

it's big and shiny and populated by people who don't continually repost others comments without understanding them

While the intellectual low ground is populated by people who continually pretend they understand what's going on but can't be bothered explaining it.

[Dreadful Scathe]

While the intellectual low ground is populated by people who continually pretend they understand what's going on but can't be bothered explaining it.

why would these people not bother to explain that they're pretending not to understand ?

[Isis]

why would these people not bother to explain that they're pretending not to understand ?

*sigh**shrug* 'Cos they can't be bothered. It's the blindness. Understand now?

[Barry Shnikov]

Which is the point really. Most people get on with their lives as normal while they believe in God. It harms no-one, not even themselves.

You could make a similar argument about, oh, racism. E.g. 'as long as they aren't active racists, they aren't harming anyone'. But that still leaves racism itself open to criticism.

[Dreadful Scathe]

*sigh**shrug* 'Cos they can't be bothered. It's the blindness. Understand now?

oh yes

You could make a similar argument about, oh, racism. E.g. 'as long as they aren't active racists, they aren't harming anyone'. But that still leaves racism itself open to criticism.

You're preaching to the converted and the bewildered here

[stewart38]

why would these people not bother to explain that they're pretending not to understand?

Easy

If you’re pretending not to understand something by explaining what you don’t understand surely this leads some people to think you really understand what you pretend not to understand and are just being pedantic?

If you really don’t understand what you pretend not understand you could argue the word pretend is not required as part of the understanding as it doesn’t exist, understand is there pretend is not?

My understanding is it’s difficult to explain why you would pretend not to understand something you do understand in a way that shows you don’t really understand (pretending of course)

So to understand something and pretend you don’t and then explain their pretending not to understand something they do is hard to put into words?

[Tiger Feet]

You could make a similar argument about, oh, racism. E.g. 'as long as they aren't active racists, they aren't harming anyone'. But that still leaves racism itself open to criticism.

Who said that religion isn't open to criticism?

Racism, being a hatred of people for no reason other than their race, isn't good, in any way. There are no plus points to it. It does nothing but harm. Do you want to argue differently?