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    My heart is in my mouth as im typing this but i was advised by another forum member that this may help my plight. i have reached a stage in dancing that i would love to progress to more difficulte moves and get my styling improved. i feel this can only be acheived if a fixed or regular partner can be found. Does anybody have any idea how this might be achieved. is there somewhere that caters for people looking for dancing partners,, any suggestions would be welcome...

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    Re: fixed partners

    IMO fixed partners are only helpful in progressing if you intend to compete.

    I have noticed that good leads who obtain a fixed partner seem to change the way the lead as they have got used to dancing with one person


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    Re: fixed partners

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble View Post
    My heart is in my mouth as im typing this but i was advised by another forum member that this may help my plight. i have reached a stage in dancing that i would love to progress to more difficulte moves and get my styling improved. i feel this can only be acheived if a fixed or regular partner can be found. Does anybody have any idea how this might be achieved. is there somewhere that caters for people looking for dancing partners,, any suggestions would be welcome...
    A fixed partner could help if you are both working toward the same goals and need to practise, but if you want to progress to more difficult moves & improve styling, why not find a new teacher, try out workshops/a weekender or perhaps have private lessons? It's great that you want to progress

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    Re: fixed partners

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble View Post
    My heart is in my mouth as im typing this but i was advised by another forum member that this may help my plight. i have reached a stage in dancing that i would love to progress to more difficulte moves and get my styling improved. i feel this can only be acheived if a fixed or regular partner can be found. Does anybody have any idea how this might be achieved. is there somewhere that caters for people looking for dancing partners,, any suggestions would be welcome...
    HI Trouble
    congratulations on posting a thread.
    I think the best advice I can give is just keep dancing until you find someone who you feel you dance well with and then ask them if they want to partner up for some extra time to help you improve and concentrate on some new moves etc. Finding the right person is difficult and just because someone is a good dancer does not necessarily mean that they will help you get better. Advertising on the forum can work to find a competition partner although that can be difficult to find someone in the right area.
    To be honest I just think dancing with all the best dancers you can find will help you move on to the next level. Every dance you have has the potential to learn something about yout dancing.
    Happy dancing and good luck finding a partner

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    Re: fixed partners

    awww your all so sweet. thanks for the advice but girls will know what i mean when i say it can be so frustrating to be so reliant on the men to progress. Its very frustrating to dance with men who know so many great moves but tend to stick to the same over and over. why do men do that... is it boredom, laziness,, nerves ???? it is so fantastic to dance with a man that leads well and is adventurous.

    i will keep looking for the adventurous dancers and hopefully improve myself at the same time.

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    Where do you dance in essex?
    I have been to a number of venues down there and i dont think we have met. I look forward to meeting and dancing with you. I promise to let my adventurous side out to play

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    Re: fixed partners

    Most guys do end up dancing a particular repertoire of moves. As one or two of them have commented on here, the followers get to dance with a range of guys in a wide variety of moves, but they have the same moves all night. If this is what is frustrating you, then perhaps not a fixed partner????

    Where do you dance now? How far would you be willing to travel to dance with more adventurous partners? For instance, have you been to any weekenders or a Monday Meltdown (I haven't been for months, but tends to have a great standard of dancers with adventurous music) and the FunkyLush events?

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    Re: fixed partners

    i dont have a regular venue for lessons but for freestyle i have just started to go to Ashtons or cheshunt on a Friday night.

    I was at Camba last week and am going again in November....i am starting to get a little more adventurous and am starting to travel around to find adventure......still not much about tho.

    i look forward to trying you out. !!

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    Fixed partners are a strange thing. There are some people that feel it is wrong to do classes as fixed partners. I personally will do either but if it is a class or a workshop where I particularly want to learn a move or one aimed at a higher level I will opt to do it with a fixed partner, as I feel as though I learn more and also feel safer (especially with drops and dips etc). I don't have a permanent fixed partner but there are a small number of men that I will ask to do classes with me as a fixed couple.

    If you can find someone who is willing to do fixed partners then go for it, but remember just because someone is a good freestyle dancer doesn't mean they will a good person to help you move your own dancing forward.

    Out of interest how long have you been dancing for?

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    Re: fixed partners

    PS From what I understand (but a leader could probably give a better answer), leaders have often 'learned' more moves than are in their everyday repertoire because it takes a while for moves that have just been learned to become part of a leader's repertoire - and perhaps a good & sympathetic follower who doesn't mind if the new move 'goes wrong' while it's still 'fresh'. Guys often find they do some moves over and over on auto when they are especially tired, too - and are usually full of apologies.

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    Re: fixed partners

    ive been dancing for three years but never been brave enough to move away from cheshunt. I used to Taxi for them there but i think more for my personality than my dancing i have just started to get hungry for new experiences,, just done third Camba weekend and absolutely loved it,, met some very good dancers and realised there is so much more out there but must go find it. Do find though that the ones that think they are good are unapproachable,, scary even... so this is off putting. im hoping by using the forum i will recognise people at events and this will help me advance.

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    Re: fixed partners

    I have noticed at Southport and now at the Ceroc event at Camber Sands that classes have quite a large section for 'fixed partners'

    This is quite effective, at least you stand a better chance of getting the routine with a fixed partner - however IMO it is better to practise your new moves in freestyle with many partners.

    Or you could pay for a 'private' class with one of the teachers at the weekend.

    As you are going to the JiveTime Camber in November, you could have a private class with your favourite teacher, come and see me and I can help you and book it for you (I will be at the reception area most of the day time)


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    Re: fixed partners

    thanks i will. I would like that to learn how to finish off moves and make them look better/neater when i finish them.

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    Re: fixed partners

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble View Post
    i have reached a stage in dancing that i would love to progress to more difficulte moves and get my styling improved. i feel this can only be acheived if a fixed or regular partner can be found. Does anybody have any idea how this might be achieved. is there somewhere that caters for people looking for dancing partners,, any suggestions would be welcome...
    As far as I know, there's no current "MJ partner matching" function - so this thread is as good as any in advertising I reckon.

    I'd disagree that progression can only be made via a fixed partner, however.

    Having a fixed partner is good if you want to compete, and is also good because it provides incentive to practise.

    But there are lots of other ways to progress - Other dance styles, specialist workshops, private lessons, and of course lots of dancing

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    Re: fixed partners

    competing is not something i have the balls for dance with a stranger is about my limit. thinking about it,, i think most of you are right, experience is the answer. This will mean travelling and trying new functions as often as possible. got to go find that adventurous dancer and fantastic lead cause they clearly arn't gonna come and find me.

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    Re: fixed partners

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble View Post
    This will mean travelling and trying new functions as often as possible. got to go find that adventurous dancer and fantastic lead cause they clearly arn't gonna come and find me.
    True, IMHO the best dancers I know......... travel....

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    Re: fixed partners

    You mention "styling", which is an excellent example of something that you don't need a fixed partner to learn. Heck, for much of it you don't need a partner at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    Leaders have often 'learned' more moves than are in their everyday repertoire because it takes a while for moves that have just been learned to become part of a leader's repertoire.
    Ya, there's a big difference between "learning" a move in some MJ class/workshop, and actually being able to lead it on followers who aren't expecting it, may never have danced it before, and may not be paying a whole lot of attention. Plus, everything else (musicality, floorcraft, connection, etc) becomes easier when sticking to known moves.

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    Re: fixed partners

    For some people, having a fixed partner can help - can sort of inspire and push each other. However, it can also sometimes be a detriment, if you get so used to dancing with that partner that you find it difficult to dance with other people.

    All the other informatin offered in the thread so far is definitely good

    Best of luck in improving...

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    Re: fixed partners

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble View Post
    ... I would like that to learn how to finish off moves and make them look better/neater when i finish them.
    Kate Hargreaves (AKA Mrs "Will" on the forum) has done a ladies styling class in the past, which might be just the kind of thing you are looking for (I had to work that day so can't tell you exactly how it was) ... perhaps keep a lookout for others?

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    Re: fixed partners

    Ladies Styling in ceroc/Jive is not something i have come across much at all. In Salsa i find it all the time. isnt that strange or is it me.

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