you could always arrange a private group lesson for your desperate to dance darlings...
Mini Me often gets hauled along to ceroc class, but for very sensible reasons (ie she is 12 going on 35, petite, gorgeous, total jail bait), she will not be permitted to join the class until she is a little older and can look after herself should anything inappropriate occur.
I totally respect this situation, and to be perfectly honest would be a little bothered if I thought she was dancing with one or two of the 'gentlemen' I have come into contact with at some venues, even in a class.
However, the little madam is whirling and spinning dangerously around the kitchen and desperate to learn properly, as are a number of her friends who were hooked on strictly dance everything. I'm having enough problems learning to follow, without trying to lead too.
So my question is (bearing in mind we are in North Hertfordshire), does anyone know of ceroc classes for kids or possibly of ceroc/MJ teachers who might go into schools and teach the little darlings?
you could always arrange a private group lesson for your desperate to dance darlings...
My son is 13 and Is also really keen to learn. I dont know of any. I think the biggest issue is probably down to the fact that you would need to be government security checked and I expect the insurance would probably be massive too.Originally Posted by Serendipity
It was nice to meet you last nigth at Bedford. thanks for the dances. Dan
It was nice to meet you last night at Bedford. thanks for the dances. Dan[/QUOTE]
Thank you - very groovy baby!
Shucks, seem to have slipped back into Austin Powers mode. It's taken me years to get over the ill tempered sea bass.
I did do a little bit of this with kids years ago now, at the drama school I used to teach at, and they all loved it! And that was before the present popularity of SDF etc.
There would be no issue with someone running classes, once they have been through the security checks, and I know someone who is planning on doing exactly this by teaching Lindy in schools soon.
The best thing to do would be to ask around the local ceroc teachers to see if they'd be willing to set up a saturday morning lesson at a local school or church hall, ask at the schools and youth groups to see who'd be interested, and you would also need to have a certain number of willing adult helpers, as there are laws about how many children an adult can be left in charge of.
As for insurance, I'm not sure, it may be worth asking in your school what the legal aspects are.
I think its a great idea, and if I had the time to commit, I'd love to get involved, but unfortunately I don't.
There is an extremely long but very interesting thread
here
which discusses loads of stuff around kids and ceroc classes
If you can get enough of 'em together, I'm sure that you could cover the costs of venue/teacher with a reasonable price per head.
I know that Tiggerbabe and Piglet went into one of the local schools in Scotland and taught them a ceroc class:
Ceroc for under 10's - but as far as I am aware, that was a one-off.
You could have a word with your local teacher or get in contact with ceroc uk to see if they would be able to give you any advice if you wish to set it up.
Good Luck
What a good idea- I didn't realise ceroc was going into schools. Think it would certainly beat compulsory Scottish country dancing, but I wonder if the boys are any less embarrassed about holding girls' hands?
Yep and since we've been told we've to up our gym time with the kids, me and another teacher are going to put our 2 classes together and do more dancing with them.Originally Posted by Dizzy
A lot of 13 and 14 year old girls in the school I work in in Perth, get taught some version of Jiving ( not just ballroom jive ) ~ from the local "girls dance school"
the classes seem to be up to an advanced level, as one keen 13 year old at least, is into aerials. !!!
It may be worth contacting the local dance schools inyour area, or dance school associations..
John
My daughter who's in her teens loves ceroc and yes would be wary about taking her to some venues because unfortunately there are a few men out there who would not wanting her dancing with.. Even the younger boys who are 9 and 11 have been known to regularily ceroc about the living room with me, daughter or friends.............
On the note of classes for kids............
I used to volunteer in a primary school and ran classes for cheerleading and movement for children 8+ (P4-P7)during the children lunch hour and the kids loved it .
Due to my work I had qualifications of working with children although in a different environment but still covered teaching and guidance.
A full disclosure scotland check would need to be carried and most schools are happy to cover the costs of this when classes run during school. But you can pay this yourself not expensive though but every adult has to have this done to protect themselves and the children,
The laws regarding adults to so many children did not come into it, if you are teaching with in the school or hall, not sure if changed but was only relevant if you plan to travel with them on activity, trip, transport etc....
as for insurance I was covered by the school as I was assisting within school opening hours worth while speaking to the head teacher as may vary.......
Hoping to go back next term as kids have been asking about lunch time classes within school, and only reason I stopped was due to work commitments................
Can be hard work but really rewarding and the kids can all participate in putting on short show etc for school at end of term with certificate them for their achievement or participation( Schools normally really happy to assist in making them printing photo copying, I was fortunate that got access to pc printer laminator etc,you never know if you don't ask! )
I used to train up Nicole from NZ (mentioned in that other thread) because her mother asked me to do so when the girl was 12. She was sitting there near the dance floor, wanting to dance but nobody would ask her. Yet, as it turned out, she is extremely talented and it'd have been a waste not to get her up. And yes, teaching kids is WAY MORE REWARDING than teaching adults. For starters you generally get kids that actually want to learn to dance and secondly their brain capacity is more or less unused, which means they are learning and progressing in leaps and bounces.Originally Posted by cheeks
As for the concerns, I totally agree with those and understand them, too. But I also see it as the job of the parent(s) to be there when their youngster is exposing her/himself to the adult world on the dance floor or have somebody around they trust. the line will always have to be drawn by the involved adults and the parent(s) should also not hesitate telling a person off if they are doing dodgy stuff or the child complains. So that is something where you as the 'protector' must commit to having the guts to potentially confront somebody.
Unfortunately parents have lives too, and often have more than one child to take care of.Originally Posted by Andreas
Even more unfortunately a great deal of child abuse is committed by people that the parents trust.
Absolutely, and should always be taken seriously - abuse happening to just one child is one too many.Originally Posted by bigdjiver
However, "good news is no news". It is my personal belief that there is far less child abuse these days than in the days when families were having to live in one room and even, more recently, when anyone who wanted could get involved as an adult volunteer with youth activities - certainly I was never CRB checked until the mid-90s and I'd been involved with youth work for over 10 years - with under 10s since I was in my early teens. Raised awareness and lots of checks are a good thing. Unfortunately, the bloody media only seem to report negative aspects: "Paedophile applied for job in school!!!" Shock, horror. When the actual point is that the system worked because it identified the risk and prevented the person getting the job.
Some of the "rules" in place are to protect adults as much as children - e.g. a youth worker/teacher/etc should *never* be alone with a child out of sight - if a kid wants to talk to you alone then the door should be left ajar, or the conversation take place in a quiet corner but still in full view, etc. etc. Kids may be unaware of consequences, or simply be nasty pieces of work owing to a poor upbringing, and make false accusations to punish someone. I have been accused of being a child molester because I unreasonably told someone off for letting off fireworks indoors. I'm sure many people on here who have worked with kids have similar experiences, or sadly, worse - certainly there have been many media stories about unfortunate teachers who have been falsely accused and teachers' unions are treating this as a serious issue.
For all the media screaming about dangers to children, paedophiles lurking round every corner, blah blah blah blah, there are hundreds of thousands of kids a year who benefit from all kinds of youth activities and never experience any form of harm. Let's keep it in proportion.
Don't I know about that. I got an invitation to further my football when I was 8 and my father turned it down because he didn't want to drive me three times a week. Retrospectively I am possibly happy because I have absolutely no interest in football anymore but it was a missed chance.Originally Posted by bigdjiver
Anyway, I don't think we are talking about parents not being willing to commit to taking their children to dance. It may well come to this when the frequency of practice units increases but that is beyond 'getting started'.
I am also aware of the abuse issue you mention and it is indeed a sad statistic. But a trusted person could also be mother/father of other children with the same interest etc. Mind you, that doesn't negate the statistic either, though.
You can read too much into statistics though - that reminds me of the South Park episode where such "statistics" were discussed and the parents ended up splitting up because they couldnt trust each other and then building a huge wall round the town so no abusers could get in either. It was eventually attacked by mongolians. Obviously the moral is - dont let paranoia stop you living a normal life, and dont trust mongolians.Originally Posted by Andreas
I would think the majority of us have brains like thatOriginally Posted by Andreas
I totally understand this point, (also the point about forcing kids to do Scottish Country dancing) - I learned the proper stuff from my Mum and Dad when I was five. They were members of the Royal Scottish Country Dance Society, and infected me with enthusiasm for Country Dancing and Ceilidhing (And for dancing in general - hence my presence at CEROC!)Originally Posted by Andreas
Compare this with PE - which only ground a few over popular dances into my head and left my ankles not ever wanting to do a "Strip the Willow" ever again....(Even at ceilidhs now I don't do them if I can help it - and those memories are years behind me..)
Whitetiger
Apologies for being ignorant, but at what age would it be acceptable to bring my daughter along to a Ceroc class ? she's way too young at the moment, but loves dancing with me around the living room Is there a fixed aged rule ?
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