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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
    Everyone has a different axe to grind. Except me, of course.
    But only some have the gold plated oil stone to hone them on!

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chef
    OK. I understand what you are saying (I think) that it is using our fear of crime to increase our fear of illegal immigrants. Is it a bit like saying "we should send those men that are rapists to prison" uses peoples abhorance of rape to increase fear of men? Not sure I can see it myself, but I will take your word for it.

    I just read Heathers post as to mean that she wasn't ruling out accepting illegal immigrants in this country but that it should not be a complete blanket acceptance (an amnesty - if I truly understand the meaning of that word) and that those people that had already proved themselves to be a serious danger to law abiding people should not be offered citizenship here unlike the vast majority of illegal immigrants here who are quietly going about trying to make a better life for themselves.

    I never once got the idea from Heathers post that she was asserting that ALL illegal immigrants were dangerous criminals.



    EXACTLY!!!

    Thank You!

    Unlike lots of folks on the Forum, I don't have time to sit in front of a computer screen all day, reading and replying to posts on the Forum, so I try to make the few posts I make short and sweet!
    Obviously I didn't write enough to clarify myself. Thanks Chef - if I knew how to rep - I'd give you some points, or whatever.


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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Hey if I knew how to rep , I'd give him one too.

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Unlike lots of folks on the Forum, I don't have time to sit in front of a computer screen all day, reading and replying to posts on the Forum
    Lucky you...

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by azande
    Lucky you...

    Some of us have to actually work for a living!


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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames
    So from a completely self-centered viewpoint, yes, I support an amnesty. And yes, OK, they can pay for Stewart38's pension as well, if he insists...

    well we do need young people to pay for my pension and there isnt enough of them around so we should 'allow a few nice ones in'

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    well we do need young people to pay for my pension and there isnt enough of them around so we should 'allow a few nice ones in'
    A very good point made very well!

    Now how do we increase the numbers of female illegal immigrants from Scandinavia?

    Come on boys this is important!!!

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    I have a theory about this.

    I meet a lot of people through my work who have decided that Buy to Let properties are the route to financial security in old age.

    They use their legitimate status to get a mortgage, which is paid by the tenant, retaining a small amount of equity as their long term investment.

    Anyone illegal has to live somewhere and is fueling this property ownership.

    Who are the winners and losers in this scenario.?

    This has created a distortion in the housing market that makes it very difficult for 1st time buyers to get started.

    I wonder if these Investors read the Daily Mail?

    Zuhal

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zuhal
    I have a theory about this.

    I meet a lot of people through my work who have decided that Buy to Let properties are the route to financial security in old age.

    They use their legitimate status to get a mortgage, which is paid by the tenant, retaining a small amount of equity as their long term investment.

    Anyone illegal has to live somewhere and is fueling this property ownership.

    Who are the winners and losers in this scenario.?

    This has created a distortion in the housing market that makes it very difficult for 1st time buyers to get started.

    I wonder if these Investors read the Daily Mail?

    Zuhal
    I don't see that it's anyones illegal status per se would affect this. If illegal immigrants are working (and they must be if they can afford to pay rent) then they are obviously doing jobs that need to be done. If your solution to pressure on the housing market is to reduce the population - by removing illegal immigrants, were such a thing possible - then those jobs would go undone, and the economy as a whole would suffer.

    I don't really see that immigration is responsible for property prices, rather, it's a lack of properties.

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heather
    : Obviously I didn't write enough to clarify myself. Thanks Chef - if I knew how to rep - I'd give you some points, or whatever.


    Heather

    If you look to the left of my post ie under stewart38

    There is 3 icons at the bottom

    Select the middle one (looks like a snow flake) and it comes up with I approve and I disapprove

    Click on ‘I approve’ and they you have it !

    Hope Tramp isn’t about

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
    I don't really see that immigration is responsible for property prices, rather, it's a lack of properties.
    So lets build another 1,000,000 homes in the south east

    Are there too many cars or not enough roads ??

    Simple solutions is keep building

    Jobs wont go undone it would just cost my company more to have it cleaned each night

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    Jobs wont go undone it would just cost my company more to have it cleaned each night
    Let me guess, that if it was a case of not having your company cleaned each night, or paying the higher wages out of your pension contributions - then you'd rather the job went undone. Am I right?

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    Re: Should we give an amnesty to all illegal immigrants ?

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    Should we give half a million illegal immigrants an amnesty ? The immigration ministers hasn’t refused the idea
    Yes?? ....

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