Hello Twirly. This subject has come up before and someone is bound to provide a link to previous discussions but it always worth the newcomers to the forum having their say nevertheless.Originally Posted by Twirly
I have been to a number of indepentant MJ providers where cans of deodorant are provided free in the guys toilets, neatly labelled with the company logo and a sign saying help yourself. Ceroc (at least in the South where I have experienced it) rarely seem to do something unless an independant has done it before and it has been shown to be A Good Thing. So when it is a commonplace practice amongst independants, wait for 18 months and perhaps Ceroc will start doing it. When they do start doing something though, they do it really well.
Pongy men at venues are really not that common but you really do remember the ones that you encounter. It seems to be more a problem in London where people work all day in offices, rush out to venues while grabbing food on the way and go straight in without having the chance to have a shower at their place of work. They do have other options if this is the case and you would think it would be a simple matter of packing some clean shirts in the morning and a flannel so at least they could have a reasonable wash in the gents loo and a clean, non marinaded shirt to wear. It is just a failure of planning in their part brought on by not doing it having no consequences.
If you point blank refused to dance with a pongy man (don't make a public show of it or be unduly hurtful) until they had sorted the problem then problem would go away (both at the time and in the future). Men will get the clear message that if you pong you will spend the evening sitting on your butt. You might be thought of as a bit of a hotshot for refusing a dance but why should you put up with their smell if they won't keep their own hygene in order. A little proviso here - sometimes pongyness creeps up on us men and we are not always the first to notice. So if you tell us then at least we know and can do something about it.
Men (and it almost always is) then have a choice. Either clean themselves in future and pack clean shirts (at least), or not have anyone agree to dance with them.
Don't put up with the excuse that they didn't have time or facitilies to wash between work and dancing. They either find a way and the time or they don't come out dancing. Men that can't be bothered to wash don't deserve to have women dancing in their arms.
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