[/QUOTE]How do you know - did you video the dances? Or did you ask your partner?
It most probably felt the same as dancing to any style of music. Changing the rhythm and style would help to make it LOOK different. Try ballroom and latin.
OK, but that's possibly a leetle bit of a fine distinction there.Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
And if I were to be told I could "Learn to speak French in one evening", I'd expect to be a French speaker in one evening
How do you know - did you video the dances? Or did you ask your partner?Originally Posted by Robin
Last edited by David Bailey; 16th-February-2006 at 10:34 AM.
[/QUOTE]How do you know - did you video the dances? Or did you ask your partner?
It most probably felt the same as dancing to any style of music. Changing the rhythm and style would help to make it LOOK different. Try ballroom and latin.
And in that ultra-fine distinction lies the genius of marketese...Originally Posted by DavidJames
No I didn't, but we had a few "judges" aka dance professionals.Originally Posted by DavidJames
It was an interesting exercise though - his tango and my ceroc had both "evolved".
Maybe i'm in the wrong thread ...
Originally Posted by Yogi_Bear
Interesting if it were true but its not
I know loads of people who have been dancing ceroc/jive for years and years and thats all they want to do
Some people on the forum tend to often think we all want to be the next John Travlota many many old timers are just happy with ceroc/jive they dont want/need anything else
Give me two names of people in the whole country that have moved out of MJ and into Tango
Before we had the latest surge in interest in ceroc (last 18 months) some venues average age was creeping up and up as people who stayed around got older and older
To pretend there is such a migration is silly (of course a few do)
Actually. I'd agree with the points that Yogi made. He didn't say 'everyone' moves on. He said that 'some punters' move onto other types of dancing. Which is quite true. And yes, most people are quite happy doing what they do, and have a social night out, enjoying themselves. He also said that too.Originally Posted by stewart38
Some people move onto the other things totally, and don't come to MJ anymore. I think that most try other things. But still do come to MJ to dance, see their friends, etc.
This isn't just exclusive to MJ - I know people who started out with salsa and have then moved on to other dances and no longer go to salsa - classes or social. (Me, for one!)Originally Posted by TheTramp
The big difference with MJ is that if people want to learn something new from another dance style they can do that, and still dance MJ socially because some aspects of what they are learning in the other dance styles can be applied to their MJ dancing.
But they aren't the sort of people who drop out of MJ because of a lack of 'structure' - I really do think its about learning styles as much as anything. Some people want to be given the basics and allowed to improvise, others want more guidance on how and where they should be stepping and moving.
There is one here in Cardiff now. Which is taught on thursday nights. Quite a busy class with about 60-70 people turning up. Its only a begineers class at the moment and we only learn 2 moves, in an hour. The emphasis has been on tension and being Leroc they tend to guide the ladies footwork (not compulsary). Seems to be going quite well. The class has been running about 4 or 5 weeks now and i think a 3rd move will be introduced. It is nice to see some classes teaching this.Originally Posted by Magic Hans
From all that has been said, would it be right to describe MJ as
A car with only a 1st gear (beginners) and 2nd gear (intermediates)…..
it can try to reach 100 miles an hour but it’ll never do because it hasn’t built in it, the 3rd gear (fundamentals) and 4th - 5th gear (structure) to push it that much further.
The Silly thing is the people in Car, ie you and me, don’t know about the gear problem. We were just put in the Car, we’re not mechanics. We're just loving the radio, sat nav, and all the mod cons in the car.
And as the saying goes, we can’t think outside the box.
(I think I’ve just described human exists)
Point id make is many do know were missing some gears but dont care we just turn the radio upOriginally Posted by Dancing Teeth
To extend the analogy further: 2 gears are fine and do the job of getting from A to B - as long as the driver considers the limitations of the car and isn't trying to bomb along the motorway or off-road...
Originally Posted by stewart38
Nice one Stewart38, that turn the radio up part made me laugh out loud in the office.
So in fact, one could perhaps describe learning other dance styles which do have those added features as 'pimping your ride'?
Nice one!Originally Posted by Dancing Teeth
So some of us spot the limitation of the car and buy a different one (in my case a vintage American model), but keep the one with the loud radio for social use
Originally Posted by LMC
another nice one....
It's easier to go off road... ie other dances ,,WCS, Salsa etc.... because the gear ratio can handle this... just not bombing down the motorway....
Hmm, by off-road and high speed, I was referring to complicated moves - dips/drops/aerials and physical fitness (or lack thereof...) - this is where analogies fall over
I prefer the idea of other dance styles being another car, as per clevedonboy's idea. After all, I'm probably just about Lada standard now when it comes to MJ, but calling my tango a rollerskate (you know, one of those leather and metal 1970s efforts) would be a compliment
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I take great offence .Originally Posted by LMC
And that's why I'd rather dance with most beginners on their first night than lots of people who've been dancing for a few months.Originally Posted by stewart38
I understand that you might not feel that it's necessary to teach people to dance well, but teaching them how to dance badly is just unnecessary.
Sean
Originally Posted by Dancing Teeth
what do you have to do to get rep around here
Originally Posted by tsh
Its that old lets knock ceroc routine, yawn
Using the car analogy i think is good
your not driving badly if you turn the radio up what your doing is not wanting to take the car on to a racing track and really text your self
who teaches people to dance badly ? please clarify ??
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