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    Re: New Forum Software!

    The psychology of change... ah, it's fascinating to watch.

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    When I was being trained as an IBM systems programmer my boss would look look at the advertised features of the next "great" release of the operating system and say "want that, want that,...", but he would not install it. The next release would be comparitively boring, but it would be far more likely to actually work. The problems involved for writing software for hundreds of systems that are not the same, and hundreds of users that each operate differently should not be underestimated. The machine that is most likely to be most different from that of the average user is the one that the programmer is using, and doing most of the testing on. The forum software is getting to be quite a substantial systems now, and I think those concerned have done not too badly. When I have got my head around the changes (old dogs) and discovered the new features I will probably think that they have done very well indeed. This thread has been very useful. I think I will have to reread it, and distribute some rep.

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    I like the < ctrl-B > etc to wrap text in formatting

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
    Whenever you 'fix' some behaviour of a system so that it's more logical or 'consistent', you'll always find some people who had got used to the old way of doing things and preferred it.
    True. But there is a whole load of difference, in my opinion, between things that work in a different way, so you just have to get used to them, and things just "don't work", however you may wish to dress them up, like "links to latest unread posts" putting you pages back in the thread or having to log on a second time when you are already logged on (I think you are right on the URL being the problem Ducasi )

    BTW my exam is on systems change and evolution so this is a hot topic for me.

    Over-reacting? Me ???

    Clive

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    I can't decide whether the list of "12 Most Recent Searches Made By Our Members" in the "advanced search" window is disconcerting or fascinating. Probably both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou
    I can't decide whether the list of "12 Most Recent Searches Made By Our Members" in the "advanced search" window is disconcerting or fascinating. Probably both.
    I think it's great!

    The number varies, which makes me wonder how it decides... Probably only showing you the ones it has cached.
    Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou
    I can't decide whether the list of "12 Most Recent Searches Made By Our Members" in the "advanced search" window is disconcerting or fascinating. Probably both.
    I am literally killing myself laughing now - please tell me I'm not the only one planning to do some dodgy searches just to get people "wondering"?

    OK, OK, I'm a big kid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMC
    I am literally killing myself laughing now - please tell me I'm not the only one planning to do some dodgy searches just to get people "wondering"?

    OK, OK, I'm a big kid...
    Would the person who searched for "lemon latin lover" please stand up...

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    Stop it! I'm dying here...

    I haven't actually *done* any dodgy searches yet, but looking at the history, have either put ideas into people's heads, or am not the only big kid on here....

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Hmm have people deliberately been searching for "fruit orifice tight" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe
    Hmm have people deliberately been searching for "fruit orifice tight" ?
    If the searches were Boolean then the number of results for that one, and for "commando rhythm mistress" would be quite scary

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMC
    If the searches were Boolean then the number of results for that one, and for "commando rhythm mistress" would be quite scary
    Hey! OR is Boolean (and has feelings) too .

    I get what you mean though. If it was an AND based search then "rendezvous submarine 16:00 signal long-long-long-short location as before (Agent Z)" at 5000 would be scary.

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    I think quick search is AND, while advanced search is OR... Or at least, that's the notion I have in my head... Wish it was always AND, as OR searches almost always suck.
    Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi
    I think quick search is AND, while advanced search is OR... Or at least, that's the notion I have in my head... Wish it was always AND, as OR searches almost always suck.
    Yes they do. They do have some purpose "Final Fantasy XII OR 12 OR Twelve" for example; but people will put the ORs in explicitly in such cases.

    I wonder if any search engine supports XOR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by killingtime
    Yes they do. They do have some purpose "Final Fantasy XII OR 12 OR Twelve" for example; but people will put the ORs in explicitly in such cases.
    But forget to put in brackets which means all the documents with "12" in them overwhelm the rest. Explicit binary searching can be cool, but implicit OR almost always sucks. (Which is what I meant.)
    Quote Originally Posted by killingtime
    I wonder if any search engine supports XOR?
    You'd have to convince me of it's usefulness first...
    Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi on XOR
    You'd have to convince me of it's usefulness first...
    I can almost certainly convince you that there is no use to them at all. Just curious if any did support them. NOT does just fine.

    Though on your other point Google would, I think, parse "Final Fantasy XII OR 12 OR Twelve" as Final AND Fantasy AND (12 OR XII OR Twelve) automatically. If it didn't though I might have to remember to change search queries in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killingtime
    Though on your other point Google would, I think, parse "Final Fantasy XII OR 12 OR Twelve" as Final AND Fantasy AND (12 OR XII OR Twelve) automatically. If it didn't though I might have to remember to change search queries in the future.
    Well it finds 18 million pages with your search, and 19 million with just "Final Fantasy XII". I don't think Google does boolean – it always does an implicit AND.
    Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi
    Well it finds 18 million pages with your search, and 19 million with just "Final Fantasy XII". I don't think Google does boolean – it always does an implicit AND.
    It should do or according to their search information pages however saying that "12" will probably be omitted as I don't think Google pays any attention to numbers. Perhaps +12 would do the trick. And how many people are actually going to write twelve?

    Anyway it was a stupid example by me .

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    Quote Originally Posted by killingtime
    Anyway it was a stupid example by me .
    Thank goodness you said so, I thought it was just me
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    Re: New Forum Software!

    naked ceroc babes

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    hang on..this isnt the search box

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