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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi
    Works for me... Maybe you're just not repping enough.
    where exactly are you seeing it?

    oh oh edit..... i can see it if i am in orange but not in apple white.. which i use as its less noticable when people walk in the room!

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by drathzel
    where exactly are you seeing it?
    Sorry D, the facility is only implemented in the Orange style, so you'll need to switch to that to see the rep you gave.
    Franck.

    There's an A.P.P. for that!

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by Franck
    Sorry D, the facility is only implemented in the Orange style, so you'll need to switch to that to see the rep you gave.

    ok thanks!

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by drathzel
    ok thanks!
    It's not in the blue one either... and why do some posts (/areas?) allow "quick reply" and others don't?

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Is it me? Is it me?

    Does anyone use the click of forum title in "home page"of the forum to take them to the latest unread post in a thread?

    When I now use this I get placed "several pages back" in the thread - a complete bl00dy nuisance.

    Is no one else getting this "forced second logon" when replying to posts????

    This new version of vBulletin has been a retrograde step in my experience and hasn't introduced any "must have features" that have counter-balanced the irritations.

    With software upgrades follow the medical dictum, "First, do no harm".

    Clive

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Long
    Is it me? Is it me?

    Does anyone use the click of forum title in "home page"of the forum to take them to the latest unread post in a thread?

    When I now use this I get placed "several pages back" in the thread - a complete bl00dy nuisance.
    It does the first time you go to the thread after an upgrade. After that it seems to settle down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Long

    Is no one else getting this "forced second logon" when replying to posts????
    Not me.

    The "insert link" box of the compose screen doesn't work as before; it only asks you for the URL now instead of the link text first then the URL. If you want distinct link text you have to edit the insert manually. This could be a feature, but it might be a bug.

    The new display for unread posts works in a way that I don't like so much; previously, when you replied to or read a thread, it would still appear in the new posts search for a while, albeit no longer emboldened. So you could go back to the thread (or your reply) within a few minutes. This was important if other replies came in while you were posting yours - you could check. Now it immediately disappears from the list of new posts (because you're up to date on that thread) and you have to go to 'Recent Posts' to find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franck
    Sorry D, the facility is only implemented in the Orange style, so you'll need to switch to that to see the rep you gave.
    Why's that?

    Why can't say blue style users use it too?

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
    The "insert link" box of the compose screen doesn't work as before; it only asks you for the URL now instead of the link text first then the URL. If you want distinct link text you have to edit the insert manually. This could be a feature, but it might be a bug..
    I noticed that too. Didn't know you could edit it manually though.

    And Clive - check that the 'Remember Me' box is ticked when you log on - I notice now that the default is for it not to be ticked - could that be why it asks you to log on again?

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Long
    Is no one else getting this "forced second logon" when replying to posts????
    I'm getting a "Not logged in" on occasion - I've no idea why, and as I usually have multiple tabs open for forum posting, it's difficult to see a pattern.

    It's bloody annoying if you've spent ages composing a post and then go to post it - and it requires you to log back in. OK, 90% of the time you can then post it as you wanted, but I'm paranoid that it'll lose my precious pearls of wisdome...


    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Long
    This new version of vBulletin has been a retrograde step in my experience and hasn't introduced any "must have features" that have counter-balanced the irritations.
    A bit harsh - I'd be more inclined to say there are still some teething problems, is all.
    But the "inline edit" for posts is lovely to fix mistakes, and I'm now starting to like the way "New posts" is divided into new and unread sections.


    Quote Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
    The "insert link" box of the compose screen doesn't work as before; it only asks you for the URL now instead of the link text first then the URL.
    This was a bit confusing, but I like this now - it seems more in line with other editing practices to me, where you associate a link with some pre-existing text.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
    The new display for unread posts works in a way that I don't like so much; previously, when you replied to or read a thread, it would still appear in the new posts search for a while, albeit no longer emboldened. So you could go back to the thread (or your reply) within a few minutes. This was important if other replies came in while you were posting yours - you could check. Now it immediately disappears from the list of new posts (because you're up to date on that thread) and you have to go to 'Recent Posts' to find it.
    Yeah, that is a bit of a pain.

    The only serious critique I'd say of the upgrade is the lack of "New features" documentation - it'd be useful to put a "what works differently" or even a mini-FAQ ( a good one, of course ), rather than finding out by trial and error.

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames
    This was a bit confusing, but I like this now - it seems more in line with other editing practices to me, where you associate a link with some pre-existing text.
    Aha - is that how it works. Cool. Definitely an improvement then.

    The undo/re-do feature in the editor is new as well no? That's also useful.

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Still no read receipts for PMs? Or have I just not switched something on that I should have?

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Long
    Is it me? Is it me?
    First check this...

    Are you reading the forum at this URL:


    Or this one...


    You'll find if you use the first one, things could go bad, including being asked to login again...

    If that's not your problem... Try logging out of the forum, going to your browser's cookie list and making sure all the cerocscotland.com cookies have been erased.

    Before you log back in, wipe your browser's cache.

    Let me know if any of this helps...
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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn
    Still no read receipts for PMs? Or have I just not switched something on that I should have?
    Yeah, that's a bummer. I did a bit of hacking on my Mac to get these back, but it's not a solution available to everyone. As I haven't had a good look at the admin options of this new version, I don't know if there's a setting Franck can change...
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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
    The undo/re-do feature in the editor is new as well no? That's also useful.
    Hmm... I already have that in my browser... :shrug:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northants Girly
    Why's that?

    Why can't say blue style users use it too?
    It's simply that the other styles haven't been written with this capability in mind and would need fixed up to allow it. Not a big change in itself, but across all the other styles and fixes needed, quite a lot of work!
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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn
    I noticed that too. Didn't know you could edit it manually though.

    And Clive - check that the 'Remember Me' box is ticked when you log on - I notice now that the default is for it not to be ticked - could that be why it asks you to log on again?
    Good point.

    I do have "Remember, me" checked and in top RH corner of the page (below adverts) I see "Welcome, Clive Long" - so I "know" I am logged on before I attempt the reply - that's why I think this is weird "double logon" behaviour

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
    The "insert link" box of the compose screen doesn't work as before...
    As DJ says, it tries to wrap the current selection... Unfortunately none of the wrap-selection buttons work in my browser. So I don't get to wrap links round text...
    Quote Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
    The new display for unread posts works in a way that I don't like so much ...
    And as I said way back in the first post of this thread, I really like the new behaviour that it really does track exactly what you've seen and what you haven't. Unfortunately that does mean you have to be careful to make sure you don't miss "in the meantime" posts when you post...
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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi
    First check this...

    Are you reading the forum at this URL:


    Or this one...


    You'll find if you use the first one, things could go bad, including being asked to login again...
    Ahhhhhh ... you maybe right ... Need to revise now - I'll let you know later, grasshopper. (don't know appropriate Star Wars / Paduan pop-cultural reference).


    CRL

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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames
    The only serious critique I'd say of the upgrade is the lack of "New features" documentation - it'd be useful to put a "what works differently" or even a mini-FAQ ( a good one, of course ), rather than finding out by trial and error.
    Here's the official list of major new features and improvements...

    [quote=Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd]
    [code]
    Some New Features and Improvements:
    -----------------------------------
    * Product/Plugin system with over 550 'hook' locations
    strategically placed in the code. Allows modification
    and extension of vBulletin without physical alteration
    of the vBulletin PHP scripts.
    * Inline moderation allows multiple threads or posts to be
    have moderation actions performed without a visit to the
    admin or moderator control panels
    * Completely rewritten message editor with ability to
    instantly switch between standard and WYSIWYG modes
    * Thread title editing on forumdisplay via AJAX
    * Thread opening and closing on forumdisplay via AJAX
    * Super-Quick Reply on showthread via AJAX
    * Inline post edit on showthread via AJAX
    * Username suggestion for PM recipients and search by
    user via AJAX
    * Data manipulation APIs (Data Manager) for centralized
    data saving
    * Template History & Comparison for easy tracking of
    changes
    * Database-based thread and forum read marking
    * MySQL Full Text Search
    * Additional Datastore Storage Methods
    * SMTP Mail Wrapper
    * MySQLi Wrapper
    * PHPDoc'd Source Code
    * Moderator log language abstraction
    * Webkit support for style manager color picker
    * ImageMagick 6 Support (alternative to GD)
    * Calendar events support start/end times
    * Custom avatar and profile picture resizing
    * Profile pictures can be saved to filesystem
    * Statistics ordering
    * Each attachment image type can be individually set to
    generate thumbnails or not
    * Each attachment image type can be individually set to
    open in a new window or not
    * Moderated posts and threads do not contribute to post
    count until approved
    * Language chooser in footer
    * New bbcode parser now corrects invalid tag nesting to
    ensure valid HTML
    * New [attach] bbcode tag for placing attachments inline
    with messages
    * New [noparse] bbcode tag for disabling bbcode parsing
    within
    * Word wrap excludes contents of PHP/CODE/HTML blocks
    * Search engine spider configuration via XML file
    * New 'Can View Thread Content' permission
    * New 'Can Upload Animated GIF' permission
    * Attachment upload via URL in addition to local upload
    * New (hopefully foolproof) method for setting
    cookiepath/cookiedomain
    * Forum description field no longer limited to 250 characters
    * Completely rewritten Paid Subscriptions system - now known
    as Payment APIs. New support for 2checkout, Worldpay and
    Authorize.net
    * 'Always Moderate Group Posts' permission replaced with more
    logical 'Follow Forum Moderation Rules' permission
    * Threads containing posts awaiting moderation have indicator
    icon on forumdisplay for moderators
    * Right-to-left language support improved
    * Additional 'Execute SQL' auto-queries added
    * Image verification for sendmessage to avoid spam issues
    * Improved registration image verification to out-fox those
    pesky bots
    * Control panel navigation controlled by XML for easier
    addition of links
    * Upgrade system now imports styles/languages/options only
    after upgrade complete rather than after each script
    * Ability to preview signature edits
    * Calendar event email reminders
    [/code] [/quote]
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    Re: New Forum Software!

    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi
    And as I said way back in the first post of this thread, I really like the new behaviour that it really does track exactly what you've seen and what you haven't. Unfortunately that does mean you have to be careful to make sure you don't miss "in the meantime" posts when you post...
    Whenever you 'fix' some behaviour of a system so that it's more logical or 'consistent', you'll always find some people who had got used to the old way of doing things and preferred it.

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