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    Smile Help needed for maths project

    My wife is re-doing her GCSE Maths, and she has to do a statistics project which will count as 10% of her final grade. She needs to get at least 30 adults' measurements as follows. No names will be given, only whether male or female.

    If you would like to help, please let us know the following measurements for you, your husband/wife/partner/friend and anyone else you can think of. She needs the info by next weekend ideally.

    If anyone doesn't want to post their measurements here, please PM them to me. Ta.

    Right, the measurements needed are:


    Height (ins)
    Arm length (ins)
    Hand span (ins)
    Foot length, without shoe (ins)
    Head circumference, just above ears (ins)
    Weight (stones)
    Plus, of course, your sex (Male/female).

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Bloomin' 'eck you're not asking much are you?

    My weight? Pah! That's a state secret!

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by Baruch

    Right, the measurements needed are:


    Height (ins)
    Arm length (ins)
    Hand span (ins)
    Foot length, without shoe (ins)
    Head circumference, just above ears (ins)
    Weight (stones)
    Plus, of course, your sex (Male/female).
    Roight then:

    Height 69.75
    Arm length 28.25 (to fingertips)
    Hand span 9
    Foot length 11
    Head circ. 23.25
    Weight 11st 12lbs

    Male - not too many ladies with white beards.

    And I'm keeping quiet about my age ;-) But those particular measurements barely vary over the years, apart from the last - just about half a stone up in my case from fighting fit to demonstrable decrepitude.

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Still a few people short. Come on, anyone else want to help out by giving your (or someone else's) measurements? No names will be given in the project.

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Off-topic a bit I am afraid

    Why NOT metric in GCSE maths? Even when I was taught maffs in primary school (1967-ish) everything was metric. Weights, lengths, numbers.

    Worrying.

    Clive

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Long
    Why NOT metric in GCSE maths?
    Don't suppose it actually makes any difference to statistics so maybe the statistics teacher never bothered to get with the times (or is an underground champion of the imperial measure).

    Maybe you've discovered the very loophole that allows imperial to persist!

    There is something comfortable about imperial measures of length though isn't there? For some reason I think they're easier to visualise. (Except I like kilometers for a while until distances get into the 10's of miles range).

    Also, train of though started now... is it a bit brain-washy and blinkered to only teach using the currently adopted weights and measures system of Europe (et al)? There is some value in being educated in alternative units, in fact in some respects I wish I knew a lot more about chains, furlongs and such, I don't readily visualise these lengths, always have to look them up and sometimes it would be useful if I could (instantly visualise). If someone could go back through every historical record I'm ever likely to look at and update the measurements to metric that would also solve my problem.

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    The benefit of (UK) imperial is all the lovely prime factors in the units:

    14lbs to a stone (7x2)
    22 yards to a chain ? (2x11)
    8 feet to a fathom ? (2x2x2)
    16 oz to the pound (2x2x2x2)
    12 inches to the foot (3 x4)

    etc. etc.

    The point being it makes the division of practical things: salt, flour, cloth etc easy by having equal measures on weighing scales or folding cloth

    Sorry, sorry for going off-topic. Doing my measurements now - PM only

    Clive

    Edit: The disadvantage (I think) of using imperial for a stats exercise is the maffs is 'ard unless you are used to manipulating the quantities

    e.g. what's the average / mean, mode and standard deviation of: 10 stone 4 lb, 13 stone 2 lb, 8 stone 13lb etc. etc. ?

    No doubt ESG or David Franklin will show me to be wrong
    Last edited by Clive Long; 21st-September-2005 at 12:04 AM.

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by JoC
    Also, train of though started now... is it a bit brain-washy and blinkered to only teach using the currently adopted weights and measures system of Europe (et al)? There is some value in being educated in alternative units, in fact in some respects I wish I knew a lot more about chains, furlongs and such, I don't readily visualise these lengths, always have to look them up and sometimes it would be useful if I could (instantly visualise). If someone could go back through every historical record I'm ever likely to look at and update the measurements to metric that would also solve my problem.
    I think it'd be cool, but confusing to teach us all the imperial measures to the same degree as they teach metric. Though, at least in my school, they were realistic and told you how to convert things like feet and inches, and pounds and ounces into metric equivalents.

    That said, I really don't think there are many people alive who actually know and "have a measure of" all these less common imperial whatsits, like chains and hundred weights, and such. And so even if you did know, you wouldn't be able to drop them into casual conversation... "Yeah, if you go up the street a few furlong and a dozen chains, take a left..." (I can understand why it'd be useful to you, of course.)

    (Hmm, reading back this is pretty much a content-free reply. And I measured that in cubic doo-dahs. )
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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Long
    Why NOT metric in GCSE maths?
    I think it's something to do with imperial to metric conversion, which they're going to do as part of the project. Or something.

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Height (ins) 66.567
    Arm length (ins) 35.4
    Hand span (ins) 8.2
    Foot length, without shoe (ins) 11.87
    Head circumference, just above ears (ins) 23.4
    Weight (stones) 12.34
    Plus, of course, your sex (Male/female) Male

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by Baruch
    My wife is re-doing her GCSE Maths, and she has to do a statistics project which will count as 10% of her final grade. She needs to get at least 30 adults' measurements as follows. No names will be given, only whether male or female.

    If you would like to help, please let us know the following measurements for you, your husband/wife/partner/friend and anyone else you can think of. She needs the info by next weekend ideally.

    If anyone doesn't want to post their measurements here, please PM them to me. Ta.

    Right, the measurements needed are:


    Height (ins)
    Arm length (ins)
    Hand span (ins)
    Foot length, without shoe (ins)
    Head circumference, just above ears (ins)
    Weight (stones)
    Plus, of course, your sex (Male/female).

    If you are going to the dance in Cardiff on Friday, bring a tape measure! I can give you my weight and Sunrays can do the rest - hope that helps!


    Elaine

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineB
    If you are going to the dance in Cardiff on Friday, bring a tape measure! I can give you my weight and Sunrays can do the rest - hope that helps!
    Cheers. We'll see you there.

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by Baruch
    Cheers. We'll see you there.
    Tell you what, we could turn this into a bit of a party game!!!!


    Elaine

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineB
    Tell you what, we could turn this into a bit of a party game!!!!
    What - "Guess the weight of the lady"? I can't think of a more certain way of getting a slap

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by Baruch

    What - "Guess the weight of the lady"? I can't think of a more certain way of getting a slap
    Or two, or three, or more ......

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Height (ins) 65.5
    Arm length (ins) 25
    Hand span (ins) 7
    Foot length, without shoe (ins) 9
    Head circumference, just above ears (ins) 21.5
    Weight (stones) 9 stone(ish - don't weigh myself regularly but its usually around about there!)
    Plus, of course, your sex : female

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Just in the interests of science, the data I provided was completely made-up... Never trust 2nd hand data!

    Sean

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by tsh

    Just in the interests of science, the data I provided was completely made-up... Never trust 2nd hand data!

    Sean
    Thought there was a touch of the simian in those long hairy arms. But didn't wish to draw public conclusions.

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by Baruch
    Right, the measurements needed are:


    Height (ins) 5'7"
    Arm length (ins) 27"
    Hand span (ins) 7 and a half inches
    Foot length, without shoe (ins) 9" right one is a bit bigger
    Head circumference, just above ears (ins) 21"
    Weight (stones) 8st 3lb
    Plus, of course, your sex (Male/female).
    female

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    Re: Help needed for maths project

    Quote Originally Posted by tsh
    Just in the interests of science, the data I provided was completely made-up... Never trust 2nd hand data!

    Sean
    Er... yeah... then why post it?

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