What I'm saying is that people frequently only use *one* fact to prove an immigration argument rather than a collection of facts (e.g. all immigrants are evil because one family happens to be taking the p*** out of the benefits system, outrage outrage blah blah blah; all Muslims expect unreasonable changes because one pig-headed girl insists on being able to cover up completely when the existing uniform was perfectly acceptable according to Koranic principles, and the courts are dithering because the media is again shouting outrage, cultural insensitivity or outrage, she's being unreasonable - and changing their minds daily. etc etc etc). And that this picking one fact and saying "there, that proves it" frequently happens in immigration arguments in my experience. I guess what I'm asking for is for us to get away from picking at individual facts and discuss issues. Of course, you need facts as evidence. But more than one or two.Originally Posted by stewart38
You've fallen into the classic media trap there - How do you know they are Muslim? They could be Christian, Hindu, atheists or any other religion? If you mean *Asians* I don't like seeing them being stopped at Kings Cross either. But again, we're on the shaky ground of "racist versus reasonable". There are white Muslims. But most Muslims are Asian and therefore stand out by their appearance - so are more likely to be stopped. Asians may also be "not Muslim", as noted above. The FACT is that many (although not all) recent terrorist attacks on "the West" have been carried out by male Muslims of Asian origin. Short of stopping and searching everybody, the police have to make best use of resources and since current evidence indicates that there are more Asian male terrorists than white female terrorists, of course Asian males are more likely to get stopped. This does *not* excuse poor or prejudicial treatment or discourtesy. But stopping them in the first place is absolutely reasonable.I see muslims stopped every day at Euston , i dont like it
Unfortunately, because of political correctness gone mad, the above point of view could get me called racist, because I am suggesting that treating someone differently on the basis of their appearance is reasonable. So let me make it quite clear that I am ONLY agreeing that the stop and search on more male Asians than other sectors of the population is reasonable based on EVIDENCE that most recent terrorism has been carried out by male Asians.
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