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    Peoples opinions

    I’ve noticed on a number of occasions when someone make a comment or an opinion about dancing someone pops up and says well could you do better.?

    Is this peculiar to this forum or dancing

    All people are doing are expressing opinions

    If I said my football team are crap i.e. Luton Town it would just be an opinion and if someone said ‘well could you play better then any of them I have to say no’. Does that make my opinion less ?

    If someone then said to me well Luton Town have just been promoted it would seem to make my ‘opinion’ sound more silly and probably be dismissed even if it was still my ‘opinion’. I could be comparing Luton to Chelsea

    My opinion may have more credence if I was as national team football coach then someone who didn’t play much above low Sunday league level

    So in a nut shell how do we measure someone’s a opinion

    Do we care

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    Do we care
    Only if we disagree

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    Is this peculiar to this forum or dancing
    No, it's peculiar to life in general

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    So in a nut shell how do we measure someone’s a opinion
    Simple - I'm right, everyone who disagrees with me is wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    Do we care
    Amazingly, (taking into account my normal obsession with overanalysing nearly everything) no, not really

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid

    Simple - I'm right, everyone who disagrees with me is wrong.

    Wasnt it Brian clough who said " I listen to peoples opinions take on board what they say and then we come to an agreement that I was right " ?

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid


    Amazingly, (taking into account my normal obsession with overanalysing nearly everything) no, not really
    Sounds particularly painful.

    Watch out this thread could be going upstairs!

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    I’ve noticed on a number of occasions when someone make a comment or an opinion about dancing someone pops up and says well could you do better.?

    Is this peculiar to this forum or dancing

    All people are doing are expressing opinions

    If I said my football team are crap i.e. Luton Town it would just be an opinion and if someone said ‘well could you play better then any of them I have to say no’. Does that make my opinion less ?
    There are various things going on here.

    Whatever you're talking about, an all encompassing comment such as "Luton Town are crap" is a pretty stupid comment to start with. Crap compared with what? Why do you think so?

    There is a politeness issue. I might think Luton Town are crap, but if I knew your dad was the Manager, it would be a bit rude of me to say so. On a MJ dance forum, describing particular MJ dancers as crap is similarly rude in my opinion.

    As far as "could you do better?". It does make a difference whether you are part of the "community" under discussion or not, particularly if you're not going to justify your comments. If I were to say "Tim Henman is crap", I wouldn't expect to be challenged about my tennis ability. If Greg Rusedski said the same thing, he would get no end of flack.
    My opinion may have more credence if I was as national team football coach then someone who didn’t play much above low Sunday league level.
    But justifying your opinion with specifics and avoiding emotionally loaded terms like "crap" is also going to give you a lot more credibility. For example, I don't like Victor da Silva's cabarets because he never gets his arms straight on overhead lifts and it really grates on me. He's won the world exhibition title three times now - the judges clearly disagree. But I'd still stand by my opinion.

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    I’ve noticed on a number of occasions when someone make a comment or an opinion about dancing someone pops up and says well could you do better.?...
    Imagine a deaf physicist permanently in a wheelchair. He (or she) has never danced, and never will. He sees a beginner lady wobbling as she spins. He writes "Suggest that she wears a fullish heavy skirt."

    It is not a question of "Can you do better?", but "Do you know how it can be done better?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdjiver
    Imagine a deaf physicist permanently in a wheelchair. He (or she) has never danced, and never will. He sees a beginner lady wobbling as she spins. He writes "Suggest that she wears a fullish heavy skirt."

    It is not a question of "Can you do better?", but "Do you know how it can be done better?".
    Thats not bad

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdjiver
    He writes "Suggest that she wears a fullish heavy skirt."
    I've heard dancers comment positively on the gyroscopic benefits of such skirts, so he wouldn't be alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Franklin
    If Greg Rusedski said the same thing, he would get no end of flack.
    The gap between Tim and Greg is rather less than the gap between me and *insert dance god here*.

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    So in a nut shell how do we measure someone’s a opinion

    Do we care

    Every one is entitled to there own opinion

    But some people never have options on anything

    They just have facts

    And they are usually wrong

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinHarper

    The gap between Tim and Greg is rather less than the gap between me and *insert dance god here*.
    and hence has no merit

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by philsmove
    Every one is entitled to there own opinion

    But some people never have options on anything

    They just have facts

    And they are usually wrong

    Is that just your opinion or a fact ?

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    Re: Peoples opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinHarper
    The gap between Tim and Greg is rather less than the gap between me and *insert dance god here*.
    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38
    and hence has no merit
    Sure, even inside the community, if your perceived ability is sufficiently low, your ability to cause offense diminishes. There's one poster who comes to mind who often posts derogatory comments about dancers - and the standard reassurance I hear given to those dancers is,
    "Well, what can you expect from name deleted? It's not like you were insulted by someone who knew what they were talking about".
    Personally that's not a reputation I'd want, however...
    Last edited by David Franklin; 19th-July-2005 at 05:07 PM.

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