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    Cool Just A Query....

    Does popularity = good dancer?

    Do you need to have talent or or just be lucky enough to be blessed with a face that fits.


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    Re: Just A Query....

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Does popularity = good dancer?

    Do you need to have talent or or just be lucky enough to be blessed with a face that fits.


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    Re: Just A Query....

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Does popularity = good dancer?
    Do you need to have talent or or just be lucky enough to be blessed with a face that fits. ???
    Popularity is the same as anywhere else. I have seen several that only seem to come to chat / watch / feel the vibe.

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    Re: Just A Query....

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Do you need to have talent or or just be lucky enough to be blessed with a face that fits.
    Ah, but what makes your face fit?

    I think it's the same as in any environment. You need to be known, to make people feel good by your being there.

    Some people are naturally good-looking, which helps, obviously, but only insofar as people are more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt until they know them.

    After that, it's more to do with what you're like, especially on the dance floor (as opposed to the seats round the side), since there it's at least as much about feel as about look.

    I don't think it automatically follows that if you're a good dancer you'll be popular, but I'd be surprised if anyone could be popular on the dance floor and be a bad dancer.

    Chris

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    Re: Just A Query....

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Does popularity = good dancer?

    Do you need to have talent or or just be lucky enough to be blessed with a face that fits.

    ???
    Got me thinking (dangerous I know).

    There is one woman I have danced with. She is incredibly attractive (certainly to me) and she is never without male attention. She has become a fairly good dancer because she could dance all night if she wanted to.

    However.

    Whenever she dances it is with an air of weary detachment. She never "engages" in the dance. I guess (and it is only a guess) it is because
    a. she doesn't really like dancing with me
    or
    b. she really likes dancing but she gets so much "unwelcome" attention that she can't act in any way to give a guy the impression he is "in with a chance".

    As a result I have given up dancing with her and dance instead with most women who ask me (as long as I'm not exhausted) or women who I know at least appear to enjoy dancing with me - and they become more attractive to me as a result - which then enhances the dance etc. etc.

    Yours unreconstructed,

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    When your 'face fits' it doesn't necessarily mean you are attractive......maybe just in with the clique or well known.


    but I'd be surprised if anyone could be popular on the dance floor and be a bad dancer.
    I'd disagree with this.

    I had a great night last night actually

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    Re: Just A Query....

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    When your 'face fits' it doesn't necessarily mean you are attractive......maybe just in with the clique or well known.

    I'd disagree with this.

    I had a great night last night actually
    I'm glad you had a good night last night.

    Why don't you register yourself on the forum properly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    When your 'face fits' it doesn't necessarily mean you are attractive......maybe just in with the clique or well known.
    I didn't say that, though. I suggested that people tend initially to be more favourably disposed towards attractive people - no more, no less, and that such a disposition wears off very quickly if the attractiveness is only on the surface.

    What's 'the clique', though? People don't just materialise on the dance scene and find themselves in a 'clique', whatever that means. They have to dance, get to know people, get to be known. It doesn't happen overnight.

    If by 'the clique' you mean a group of good dancers who all seem to know one another and like to dance mostly with each other, then if you're interested in them, just ask some of them to dance. If they like dancing with you then you'll very rapidly become accepted. If you don't think you're good enough yet, then there's no shortcut to getting better. Every good dancer has had to learn how to be so, and that takes time.

    If you're not interested in joining 'the clique', whatever that is, then it doesn't matter - people only ever care about whether they're popular with people they're interested in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisA
    but I'd be surprised if anyone could be popular on the dance floor and be a bad dancer.
    I'd disagree with this.

    I had a great night last night actually
    Well maybe you're not a bad dancer, then

    Are you a new dancer? Because if so, don't equate being new with being bad. Beginners are great fun - they're keen to learn, happy (mostly) to laugh at their mistakes, sociable, and an asset to a dance night.


    Bad dancers have usually been dancing a while, and are in it more for themselves than their partners. They might grip and yank; if they're male they tend to think they're great but might actually dance off the beat, or attempt complicated moves, badly led, making their partner uncomfortable or actually cause them pain. They should have learned better, but often dance without consideration for those around them. If they're female then they often rely on the guy for balance, anticipate moves and constantly do their own thing, as well as lacerating the guy with their rings, gripping painfully, and yanking arms as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Northants girly
    I'm glad you had a good night last night.

    Why don't you register yourself on the forum properly?
    ....

    Tell us a bit about yourself, and maybe a bit of background to your original question.

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Long
    Whenever she dances it is with an air of weary detachment. She never "engages" in the dance. I guess (and it is only a guess) it is because
    a. she doesn't really like dancing with me
    or
    b. she really likes dancing but she gets so much "unwelcome" attention that she can't act in any way to give a guy the impression he is "in with a chance".

    As a result I have given up dancing with her and dance instead with most women who ask me (as long as I'm not exhausted) or women who I know at least appear to enjoy dancing with me - and they become more attractive to me as a result - which then enhances the dance etc. etc.

    Yours unreconstructed,

    CRL
    I recognise this phenomenon. Very attractive women must get men hitting on them all the time. And they probably get fed up with it. Perhaps they develop a defence mechanism which results in their body language constantly saying "don't even think about it". It works for me, I think it makes them look unattractive.

    And, if you're asking yourself the question "what do I do about it?". The answer, IMHO, should be "why do I need to do anything?".

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    Re: Just A Query....

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Does popularity = good dancer?

    Do you need to have talent or or just be lucky enough to be blessed with a face that fits.


    ???
    I cant see a direct answer to your original question, so

    Popularity = being yourself, no matter what that is.
    If you are yourself, and be honest about that (with yourself) and not what you think others want you to be, then being yourselkf will make you popular for your honesty.
    Being a good dancer is somewhat about practice, but you do need at the least a slight comprehension of rhythmn. If you can feel the music, and feel the beat, then the dance thing mostly follows. The more you can feel the music, the more you will be at one with the dance.
    If you are the leader, Mr/Ms or Mrs Unregtistered, then you will be followed by a whole stream of partners wanting to follow your lead in dance.
    If, tho, you are the follower, Mr/Ms or Mrs Unregistered, then also FEEL the music, and FOLLOW your leader and above all DONT lead.
    Again, practice will make you understand the lead better,and you too will have a whole load of leaders wanting to take you thru a dance, just for the shear pleasure of dancing with you.
    Hence in either case, you will become a better dancer, and become more popular, making your equation work in reverse by saying
    good dancer = popularity.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: Just A Query....

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Does popularity = good dancer?

    Do you need to have talent or or just be lucky enough to be blessed with a face that fits.


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    Oh yes, I almolst forgot a few other little points.......
    Don't think that having a good face makes you a better dancer, or in fact makes you "fit" in. Just take a look at some of the so called good dancers
    and lastly...........
    If your personal hygene is not up to an acceptable standard, then it doesn't matter how good a dancer you are, or how attractive you are...... I dare say yopu will NEVER be popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Does popularity = good dancer?
    Do you need to have talent or or just be lucky enough to be blessed with a face that fits.
    As bobgadet says, good dancer = popularity.
    Dancing lots = improving dacing and meeting lots of new people = popularity.

    When going to a venue I just look for a place to dump my bag and that's it - if you want to find me, I'm on the dance floor. I don't really socialise or converse other than through the lead. I ain't no Addonis; there are more tallented dancers than me who sit out more; I am asked to dance almost as often as I ask. It's flattering and a great feeling when people notice you - either by your presence or absence - but that's just a side-effect.

    The classically 'beautifull people' who I know from dancing all can actually dance - Lisa, Rachel, Drathzel, {etc}... Whether they got good because they got more dances than anyone else is a different matter, but for them I assume it's a double-edged sword - you have more exposure to the 'groinal dancer'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgadjet
    If your personal hygene is not up to an acceptable standard, then it doesn't matter how good a dancer you are, or how attractive you are...... I dare say you will NEVER be popular.
    Well said Bob.

    My friends pointed out a fabulous dancer, who was also good looking. But I'm afraid I could smell him from six foot away . I couldn't possibly dance with him. Please guys (and gals) have a shower, use deodorant and wear absolutiely clean clothes that evening.

    I will dance with anyone who looks like they are enjoying dancing with me. I will admit I once asked a guy to dance purely because he was good looking and smelt good too . But second dances don't come so easy.....

    It is true that beautiful people seem to get more dances and learn more quickly. But like Bob I'm talking about people who are passionate, enthusiastic, happy looking , true to themselves, that's what makes them beautiful to me - not their face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebra Woman
    It is true that beautiful people seem to get more dances and learn more quickly. But like Bob I'm talking about people who are passionate, enthusiastic, happy looking , true to themselves, that's what makes them beautiful to me - not their face.
    Thank you

    Please explain......what makes a person so different thay could be described as "beautiful" (other than Goldie Hawn that is )

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    Re: Just A Query....

    Quote Originally Posted by bobgadjet
    Who are you please
    Maybe it's someone really really famous, or someone who is already on the forum posting anon. ??

    Is it you ChrisA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Maybe it's someone really really famous, or someone who is already on the forum posting anon. ??

    Is it you ChrisA?
    Or maybe it's one of those "beautiful" people ?

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    well it aint ChrisA then !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadget
    well it aint ChrisA then !

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    You may think that, Gadget, but there are many 'wives' out there that think otherwise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgadjet
    Thank you

    Please explain......what makes a person so different thay could be described as "beautiful" (other than Goldie Hawn that is )
    Yeah she is cute

    Not sure about more detail

    I would say it's an attitude of mind too. It's someone who approaches the dance thinking primarily about what they are about to give, not what they are going to receive.

    Obviously that attitude is prevalent not just for the 3 minute dance. It was there when they chose to take a shower and wear clean clothes. And when they took responsibility for their side of the successful dance by learning to follow/lead considerately.

    There are far too many to list.....but I would say Bobgadjet and ChrisA are both beautiful people IMHO (BTW I'm definitely not one of the wives)

    ZW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebra Woman
    (BTW I'm definitely not one of the wives)

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