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    comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Im actually a jiver from the westcountry and unaware of some of the beginner mves you talk about such as the shoulder drop
    These are the beginner mves we are taught
    Arm jive
    Push Spin
    shoulder slide
    man spin
    figure of eight
    first move
    yoyo
    hatchback
    comb
    Sway
    Catapult
    octupus
    wurlitzer
    basket

    Cd you give me the ones you are taught that im nt. Feel like im missing out!

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    I suspect that "The figure of 8" is what we call "The Pretzel". However, I could be wrong.

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    My understanding is that the figure of eight is simply the lady turning then the man then the lady, holding holding R-R hand. Most of the ones you mention are at http://www.jiveoholic.org.uk.

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    AS I recall the 'figure of eight' begins man's left to ladies right; man man spins A/C letting go and picking up same ladies right hand with his right hand; man turns lady A/C. Where the man changes places the move is called the 'flying figure of eight'. The reason for the name is the man' s 'circle' is follwed by the ladies 'circle' and from bird's eye view looks like 8.Normally in practice it all ends up as a 'flying' one cos ladies are aalways moving and are going to end up the other side as one is turning anyway....

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Re: Figure of eight, for links and other descriptions see http://www.afterfive.co.uk/guide/lat...ightLinks.html

    I think the Australians call it "I turn U turn".

    SpinDr.

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Quote Originally Posted by Will
    I suspect that "The figure of 8" is what we call "The Pretzel". However, I could be wrong.
    Yup - a Fig of 8 is definitely not a Pretzel! Jockey & Spindr have both given good descriptions of what it looks like.

    Interesting set of moves.... looks like our Wurlitzer fan new friend isn't from Bristol.... is there anywhere else in the West Country?!

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Normally in practice it all ends up as a 'flying' one cos ladies are always moving and are going to end up the other side as one is turning anyway....
    I still have that problem, but I found that the excellent advice on this thread on leading moves without a change of places helped a lot. I'm now down from 180° to about 45°.

    The reason for the name is the man' s 'circle' is follwed by the ladies 'circle' and from bird's eye view looks like 8.
    Interesting. One of my teachers said it was due to the motion of the hand: start waist height, move up to go over the guy's head, go back down to chest height, move up to go over the girl's head, and back down to waist height. One of us has been lied to - probably both.

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou
    Yup - a Fig of 8 is definitely not a Pretzel!
    Octopus? And I'm sure Amir called it Ugo Igo when he was in Edinburgh - thank goodness for moves that can be led without verbal signals
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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Quote Originally Posted by thewurlitzerrocks

    Cd you give me the ones you are taught that im nt. Feel like im missing out!
    These were all standard Ceroc beginners' moves (apart from the figure of eight picked up by the others) as I learned them; until some time earlier in the year, when quite significant changes were made.

    A new list of 'Official' Ceroc beginners' moves, with brief description, can be found at:

    http://www.cerockidderminster.co.uk/...ners_moves.tpl

    However, there might have been subsequent modifications to this list.

    Why this list is not publicised and made more directly available to beginners, as an aid to present and future learning, I really do not know or understand. Is the Ceroc organisation really as professional as we are led (sic) to believe???

    By the way, where can I hear a Wurlitzer weally wockin' ??
    Last edited by Whitebeard; 3rd-November-2004 at 12:03 AM.

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Quote Originally Posted by lou

    ...... is there anywhere else in the West Country?!
    Well, stretching it a bit, this area could be included. Certainly the local accent is more West Country than South Midland. Arghhh, quoite sort erv agricult'ral me butey !!

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggerbabe
    Octopus?
    Here's that sick squid I owe you.

    Nope - An Octopus is a double handed move, where you definitely should travel to change places. A standard Figure of 8 should be static, and relies on a right to right hold (although it starts in a left to right hold for the first beat only, on beat two the man changes handhold as he starts to do his turn on the spot).

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou
    A standard Figure of 8 should be static, and relies on a right to right hold (although it starts in a left to right hold for the first beat only, on beat two the man changes handhold as he starts to do his turn on the spot).
    Oh that one - that'll be the "figure of 8" then
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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggerbabe
    Oh that one - that'll be the "figure of 8" then
    Muppet!

    btw... what language is this?

    1.SB 2.SI taking RH to the R as you cup your partners R wrist w your LH 3.spin partner c/w 4.catch as you SB 5.SI to RT 6.SB

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Interesting set of moves.... looks like our Wurlitzer fan new friend isn't from Bristol.... is there anywhere else in the West Country?! [/QUOTE]

    Yep there is im from Cornwall. There is quite a few clubs in the area considering its reputation!

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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou
    btw... what language is this?
    1.SB 2.SI taking RH to the R as you cup your partners R wrist w your LH 3.spin partner c/w 4.catch as you SB 5.SI to RT 6.SB
    Isn't it obvious?
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    Re: comparison to moves in the westcountry

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou
    Yup - a Fig of 8 is definitely not a Pretzel! Jockey & Spindr have both given good descriptions of what it looks like.

    Interesting set of moves.... looks like our Wurlitzer fan new friend isn't from Bristol.... is there anywhere else in the West Country?!
    Well, when I learnt these moves we had:
    The figure of eight, right handed move, man turns ACW then woman turns CW;
    Left handed figure of eight, as above but left handed move.
    Normally done without travelling - but could be.
    Somewhat allied to this is the She goes, he goes, which I believe is a Lindy Hop move, similar to a travelling return but man turns ACW to finish.
    Inrerested to see that the shoulder drop has now become a Ceroc beginner move - I think they have dropped the neck break.

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