Is there a victimless crime?

[Will]

There is a Church in Shrewsbury within the grounds of which it is legal to shoot a Welshman!

[Chicklet]

There is a Church in Shrewsbury within the grounds of which it is legal to shoot a Welshman!

You can't just leave it there - what is this Welshman's name, is it anyone we know????????

[Will]

You can't just leave it there - what is this Welshman's name, is it anyone we know????????

It can be any Welshman who enters the grounds of the Church, it is not specific to any one Welshman.
(Some Welshmen are easier to aim at than others though)

[MartinHarper]

suicide?
It is illegal.

From what I read, this used to be true, but is no longer the case. It was legalised (along with attempted suicide) in the 1961 Suicide Act.

[ToeTrampler]

From what I read, this used to be true, but is no longer the case. It was legalised (along with attempted suicide) in the 1961 Suicide Act.

Didn't realise this had been changed; makes sense though, after all can you really define something as a crime when you can never prosecute victim?

Attempted suicide - now that's a different kettle of fish, I'd bring the death penalty back on that one!

[under par]

There is a Church in Shrewsbury within the grounds of which it is legal to shoot a Welshman!

How long is the queue of English Rugby fans lined up with rifles?

[DianaS]

Is there any such thing as a victimless crime?

Hmm the forgery of an Old Master that is so perfect that even the experts can't detect

[TheTramp]

How long is the queue of English Rugby fans lined up with rifles?

Yeah. Maybe if you shot every Welshman under the age of 35 (actually, considering the way you've played so far this year, better make that age 50), you might actually beat us next year....

[bobgadjet]

suicide?
It is illegal.

Adam

and there are victims

[bobgadjet]

Hmm the forgery of an Old Master that is so perfect that even the experts can't detect

OK, if nobody knows which might be the forgery......... is there a forgery ?

[under par]

OK, if nobody knows which might be the forgery......... is there a forgery ?

The victim is the owner of the original Old Master whose Old Master picture is less valuable, now, that there are 2 of the same painting OR now, there are more paintings purporting to be from the Old Master.

Simple laws of supply and demand will mean there will be a drop in value. ( I think !)

[bobgadjet]

The victim is the owner of the original Old Master whose Old Master picture is less valuable, now, that there are 2 of the same painting OR now, there are more paintings purporting to be from the Old Master.

Simple laws of supply and demand will mean there will be a drop in value. ( I think !)

but will there be a drop in value, as BOTh owners may well state THEIRS is the ONLY original, the price may go up to the demand created for the actual original.

AND
Has the orginator actually lost out ? Surely the best form of flatery...... and if even HE/SHE could not tell the original....... I say again...... is there a victim ?
of for that matter..... is there a forgery ?

[Magic Hans]

Kids taking a few sweets from a huge supermaket chain (with huge profit margins)without paying. Is Tesco/Sainsburys plc really a victim?

Taking a couple of paperclips/pens home from work for the kids.

Avoiding some elements of tax.

Is there any such thing as a victimless crime?

Is Tesco/Sainsbury free of guilt of the crime?? Controversial??

Kahlil Gibran's "The Prophet" suggests:

And this also, though the word lie heavy upon your hearts:

The murdered is not unaccountable for his own murder,
And the robbed is not blameless in being robbed.
The righteous is not innocent of the deeds of the wicked,
And the white-handed is not clean in the doings of the felon.
Yea, the guilty is oftentimes the victim of the injured,

And still more often the condemned is the burden-bearer for the guiltless and unblamed.

The Prophet - Kahlil Gibran: Crime and Punishment

Not as daft as it might first appear .... if given more that half a second of consideration! [In my humble opinion, of course!]

[Dreadful Scathe]

but will there be a drop in value, as BOTh owners may well state THEIRS is the ONLY original, the price may go up to the demand created for the actual original.

What if the original artist painted 2 identical pictures just to wind people up Both are real but you'd get the same arguments and drop in value