Tips for Dancing for these hot days

[Lou]

Another thing is that carbonated water and carbonated drinks like coke, will actually dehydrated you. You'd be better off drinking nothing! Hard to believe!

Really? According to this study, it makes no difference.

No wonder it's hard to believe!

[David Franklin]

Really? According to this study, it makes no difference.

No wonder it's hard to believe!

Only problem is, Astro was talking about carbonated drinks not caffeinated ones.

Not that I think it actually helps her cause - I've never even heard about carbonated drinks having a dehydration effect. (In general people will drink less of a carbonated drink than a still one, but that's not really the same thing).

[ducasi]

Only problem is, Astro was talking about carbonated drinks not caffeinated ones.

Not that I think it actually helps her cause - I've never even heard about carbonated drinks having a dehydration effect. (In general people will drink less of a carbonated drink than a still one, but that's not really the same thing).

But the study included carbonated drinks as well as caffeinated ones.

See also this review.

[David Franklin]

But the study included carbonated drinks as well as caffeinated ones.

Fair enough; every summary I saw only discussed the caffiene side of things.

[Lou]

Fair enough; every summary I saw only discussed the caffiene side of things.

Ah... What Duncan said.

I posted that particular link having read more detailed stuff elsewhere, thinking it was a fair summary, but not noticing it was just caffeine ones.

It just struck me as really absurd that drinking any sort of beverage could make someone more dehydrated than not drinking anything at all. So I just googled for evidence.

However, if she'd said something about carbonated drinks leading to weight gain - that's an interesting one..

[David Franklin]

However, if she'd said something about carbonated drinks leading to weight gain - that's an interesting one..

Again, so much of the discussion I've seen there has tended to involve carbonated drinks containing sugar that it really skews the argument. (Given there's a lot of evidence that sugary drinks are just about as bad as it gets when it comes to empty calories).

Edit: Seems I can't even make amends by repping you or Ducasi...

[Astro]

I googled "carbonated drinks dehydration"

Got www.med.umich.edu/l.libs/sma/sma_fluids_sma.htm

not working.
www.med.umich.edu/l.libs/sma_fluids_sma.htm

I can't do links sorry.

Anyway google should get you it. Go to Sports Medicine Advisor 2005.:4: Fluids and Hydration.

It warns to avoid carbonated drinks which cause gastrointestional distress and may decrease fluid volume.

[David Franklin]

It warns to avoid carbonated drinks which cause gastrointestional distress and may decrease fluid volume.

That's hardly evidence that they are worse than not drinking at all, though.

You can find plenty of studies saying that carbonated(*) or caffeinated drinks are not as good as still water. But all the recent studies I've seen are very clear that they are better than nothing. (And in fact they come pretty close to water where you are talking about a regular drinker of the product. So someone who rarely drinks diet-coke might need to drink 1 litre for the same effect as 500ml of still water. For someone who is a regular diet-coke drinker, it might be as little as 550ml).

(*) Well actually, I still can't find any actual studies involving carbonated drinks (but my google-fu seems weak today). Although amusingly, I found a patent for a carbonated sports drink designed to prevent dehydration. If you know of any actual studies supporting your claim, I'd be fascinated to read them.

[Astro]

That's hardly evidence that they are worse than not drinking at all, though.

It says carbonated drinks 'may' cause decrease in fluid volume. True it's only a may. That is Michigan University USA.

I've been told by word of mouth, and I thought it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

Try doing a freestyle on carbonated (fizzy) water and no other fluid. Bet you can't.

Also, the lack of studies on the web may be down to the big corporatons, Pepsi, Coca Cola, Perrier, blocking the information.

[Jhutch]

Can i recommend not drinking carbonated water because of the unwanted side-effect of burping?

[David Franklin]

It says carbonated drinks 'may' cause decrease in fluid volume. True it's only a may. That is Michigan University USA.

It's not a study, though. And my understanding is "fluid volume" means "amount drunk" here(*). In other words it decreases the amount you drink, not the actual amount of fluid in the body.

I've been told by word of mouth, and I thought it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

Well, Lou, Ducasi and I hadn't heard about it, and we all found studies contradicting it.

Try doing a freestyle on carbonated (fizzy) water and no other fluid. Bet you can't.

Can't afford to at typical bar prices for fizzy water. I've done it on diet coke though no problem. Or lager-shandy (which is even worse as a plan, since alcohol really is a diuretic).

Also, the lack of studies on the web may be down to the big corporatons, Pepsi, Coca Cola, Perrier, blocking the information.

No arguing with that. After all, incidents like the "09 f9 ..." debacle show just how easy it is to block information on the internet...

(*) I can find a several of web links roughly as authorative as yours (i.e. not very) saying this.

[TurboTomato]

Can i recommend not drinking carbonated water because of the unwanted side-effect of burping?

And because it tastes horrid as well

[David Franklin]

And because it tastes horrid as well

Amazing how that icon resembles the bottom of a Perrier bottle, isn't it?

[the whale]

What's your kilt made out of Whaley? Do you dance au naturel to keep cool?

It's your bog standard 8 yard "medium" weight (which is really quite heavy!!!) kilt.

Cool & the whale are not words normally in the same book, far less sentence. I'm a 43 year old fat b I mean git (wow, cleaned that up at the last minute!) who really doesn't do cool! I've only danced at a ceilidh with my kilt on so far, but have to admit to not going commando, because I couldn't stand people looking up my kilt and then falling over with laughter

[Twirlie Bird]

Try doing a freestyle on carbonated (fizzy) water and no other fluid. Bet you can't.

Sorry Astro but I know of at least 3 people who do this at every freestyle they attend

I only drink diet coke at freestyles too and I'm ok

[Caz]

Sorry Astro but I know of at least 3 people who do this at every freestyle they attend

I only drink diet coke at freestyles too and I'm ok

i drink lemonade or pepsi if at SP to keep the energy levels up.. full fat pepsi tho

[Astro]

Try this page.

Hydration / Dehydration, Daily Fluid Requirements

Don't bother reading that page, but in the box on the left hand side type in [carbonated water dehydration]

That will take you to the right page.
Sorry I'm not very geeky.

It says many carbonated beverages have a diuretic effect.

[Astro]

It's your bog standard 8 yard "medium" weight (which is really quite heavy!!!) kilt.

Cool & the whale are not words normally in the same book, far less sentence. I'm a 43 year old fat b I mean git (wow, cleaned that up at the last minute!) who really doesn't do cool! I've only danced at a ceilidh with my kilt on so far, but have to admit to not going commando, because I couldn't stand people looking up my kilt and then falling over with laughter

I had visions of all you guys in Scotland dancing in kilts at ceroc and going commando. Is CJ a lone kilt wearer?

You and your boys are wearing your kilts on your avator. Where are you and the boys going/been?

[Astro]

Sorry Astro but I know of at least 3 people who do this at every freestyle they attend

I only drink diet coke at freestyles too and I'm ok

i drink lemonade or pepsi if at SP to keep the energy levels up.. full fat pepsi tho

www.diet-blog.com/archives/2005/12/08/the_diet_coke_and_Mentos_experience.php

Type in "Mentos" into the box to see how much carbon dioxide is in these carbonated drinks.

Carbon dioxide is expelled as waste, we breathe it out. Why put it into your body. It's in cigarettes as well.

Also drinking these drinks makes you feel as if your thirst has been quenched because it gives you a full feeling in your tummy. This can be dangerous.

A good way to tell if you are dehydrated is to check the coulour of your urine. If it's colourless or pale yellow, that's great. Anything darker, you need more fluid.

Also headaches the next morning after dancing could mean dehydration.
Hangover headaches are caused by dehydration.

[MartinHarper]

Carbon dioxide is expelled as waste, we breathe it out.

We also breathe out oxygen and water vapour.