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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Lory
    ROb read this again! It IS Andy!

    I might change the word dancer to Prancer though!
    Luv u Andy!
    I think I prefer "mincer"

    I'm certain we got maximum points from the judges for dress. And that is what having the "look" does for you. There's still many more points to be had for your actual dancing - and both Lory and Pammy could easily get maximum points for 'looks' and then it's down to practice, practice and more practice.

    Sometimes I've practiced for over an hour before a competition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lory

    The 'look'....

    She walks onto the floor with grace and confidence!

    She has a dancers frame! Petite and lithe!

    Her posture and deportment are elegant, she looks like a DANCER!

    She has a pleasing face!

    She engages with the audience and smiles effortlessly!

    She looks good in her competition costume, i.e. she wears it well!

    She's got me noticing her!!!!!

    and this is before she's even danced a single step!
    Believe it or not, all the above - bar one - can be learnt. Incidentally, being petite is not an advantage on the competition dance floor as it is harder for the judges to notice you

    All those who learn performance arts eg. ballet, jazz and those who compete seriously in Ballroom & Latin are trained on how to present themselves to an audience/judges. Good posture, grooming, how to walk on to the floor, etc can be learnt from good teachers. Everyone can do it - it isn't difficult. All it takes is the effort to learn & practise. I would always advise anyone who wishes to do well in competitions to learn this most basic of competition skills ie. the art of looking like a winner.

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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by LilyB
    the art of looking like a winner.
    Or take my approach - wear black and hide...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyB
    Believe it or not, all the above - bar one - can be learnt. Incidentally, being petite is not an advantage on the competition dance floor as it is harder for the judges to notice you

    All those who learn performance arts eg. ballet, jazz and those who compete seriously in Ballroom & Latin are trained on how to present themselves to an audience/judges. Good posture, grooming, how to walk on to the floor, etc can be learnt from good teachers. Everyone can do it - it isn't difficult. All it takes is the effort to learn & practise. I would always advise anyone who wishes to do well in competitions to learn this most basic of competition skills ie. the art of looking like a winner.

    LilyB
    Lily, is it possible for a 6'8" bloke to look as good as you do at entering the dance floor?

    I think not!

    Maybe I need some help from someone like you

    I have misssed seeing you out and about hope to see you soon.

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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by under par
    Lily, is it possible for a 6'8" bloke to look as good as you do at entering the dance floor?
    :yawn: This happens all the time, you've mixed up me and Lily. Lily is DavidB's wife and mostly sits around chatting, eating chocolate and being a lovely and fascinating woman. I am Lily(tm) the dancer that does the doughnut with David rather than eats them

    And, yes, Under Par, there is no hope for you: as Ceroc Metro will confirm, the correct height for a man is 5' 7" - any taller than that and you're too tall to live

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor

    And, yes, Under Par, there is no hope for you: as Ceroc Metro will confirm, the correct height for a man is 5' 7" - any taller than that and you're too tall to live
    Being of the CerocMetro ilk, on behalf of Adam and myself, I can indeed confirm that 5' 7" is the preferred height for dancers.

    Teachers of course can be up to 5' 8" (Adam and I). Suzy (Stevenage) is shorter that 5' 8", as is Amy (Finchley).

    Mick Wenger is about 5' 8" and then of course there is Paul (St Albans).

    Paul is slightly taller than 5' 8" and suffers frequently from nose bleeds and altitude sickness. Put him on stage for more than 30 minutes and he blacks out and has to spend time in a decompression chamber (at great expense).

    So all in all, if you are taller than 5' 8" (teacher) or 5' 7" (dancer), you might not be able to get in to CerocMetro events.

    As summer draws to a close, we have borrowed the 'if you are shorter than this, you cannot go on this ride' signs from Southend Pleasure Beach. The word 'shorter' will be replaced with the word 'taller' and the world will be a much better place...

    Andy McG - thank you for bringing this to the masses attention....of course as a 'normal' person you are welcome to join us at CerocMetro and be with people you fit in with.... !!!!!
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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon J Pownall
    Paul is slightly taller than 5' 8" and suffers frequently from nose bleeds and altitude sickness. Put him on stage for more than 30 minutes and he blacks out and has to spend time in a decompression chamber (at great expense).
    This Paul sounds a bit of a freak - I think it might be to do with the name

    p.s. Under Par's other name is Paul

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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon J Pownall
    Mick Wenger is about 5' 8"
    Hmmm, He's taller than me (if I remember correctly) and I'm 5ft 9. 5ft 10.5 in Danny La Rue's

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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor
    This Paul sounds a bit of a freak - I think it might be to do with the name
    Ah, but that Paul is a very good dancer, and indeed teacher. He's also very funny. People should give his classes a try as he does some fab moves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pammy
    Ah, but that Paul is a very good dancer, and indeed teacher. He's also very funny. People should give his classes a try as he does some fab moves
    Are you talking about Paul Kingston ?


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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Paul, teacher at St Albans!

    While I'm at it, I have to also mention Carol, his demo, who is the loveliest, friendliest person and a great lead too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnie M
    Are you talking about Paul Kingston ?
    Not sure of his last name, but if he's, as Lory puts it then it's probably him

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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel
    but you would have won that regardless of who you were dancing with.
    Rachel, I have never heard you talk such bunkum (polite version!) before. Although my post was over 6 months ago, coincidentally I was discussing possible reasons why we won just a few hours before you replied. Our heights didn't come into the conversation!

    Lory, you should definitely give the DWAS a go, feel the terror and the delight! Especially as it doesn't have to be the overwhelming (?) big competitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepman
    Rachel, I have never heard you talk such bunkum (polite version!) before.
    Hey, that's twice in this thread I've been told I talk b*****ks!!! But I still stick by what I said, although I think the world of you and Lory!
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    gordy hum how odd if adam is 5.8 that makes me at least 5.9
    i think not

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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by lozzy(bandana man
    gordy hum how odd if adam is 5.8 that makes me at least 5.9
    i think not
    But only in your heels though Loz......try tyeing your bandana (or banana) a littel tighter at the top....that should help keep you within the terms of your CerocMetro contract.....
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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by LilyB
    Believe it or not, all the above - bar one - can be learnt. Incidentally, being petite is not an advantage on the competition dance floor as it is harder for the judges to notice you
    Lily, you're so eye-catcing in the way you are and the way you dance (all of this is said in a way) that the judges couldn't possibly NOT notice you ! I think petiteness (if there is such a term) is a distinct advantage and find myself wishing I were more so... In fact my height and wieght have recently been contributing factors in putting me off entering a comp, and that's after me losing 11lbs!
    I agree with you that the other things mentioned can, to a large degree, be learnt. It's just a shame I can't learn to be petite too !

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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by lozzy(bandana man
    gordy hum how odd if adam is 5.8 that makes me at least 5.9
    i think not
    I agree, Adam is the same height as me, 5' 7" of love muscle

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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor
    I agree, Adam is the same height as me, 5' 7" of love muscle
    Women don't like men with too many muscles.....just one big one....
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    Re: Competition Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon J Pownall
    Women don't like men with too many muscles.....
    Who says ??

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