Learning Photoshop ( or any photo editing software )

[Cruella]

I just had to share this link. Soooo clever.

[Lynn]

I just had to share this link. Soooo clever.

Yeah saw the link you'd put on FB - really liked it - great concept.

[Lory]

I just had to share this link. Soooo clever.

Brilliant!

[philsmove]

My skin feels like Plastic

Fotoshop by Adobé

http://vimeo.com/34813864

[cederic]

Rather than divert Lynn's new computer thread, thought I'd ask in here.

What makes LR4 worth the £55 upgrade from LR3? Especially if you're a crap amateur photographer that takes 50 photos a month and keeps four of them?

I'm tempted anyway, but just need someone to make me not feel guilty about it

[philsmove]

Rather than divert Lynn's new computer thread, thought I'd ask in here.

What makes LR4 worth the £55 upgrade from LR3? Especially if you're a crap amateur photographer that takes 50 photos a month and keeps four of them?

I'm tempted anyway, but just need someone to make me not feel guilty about it

It depends of what you do with your 4 keepers

Some of the improvements I use

Better Highlight and shadow recovery
Better clarity slider
White balance brush
Additional editing brushes

it has other things like geolocation tagging, and video which I have no use for

If you dont use any of the tool or brushes in LR3 then you are unlikely to gain a lot from LR4

The full list is here


http://www.adobe.com/products/photos...es_sl_new.html


I can only suggest you try the 30 day free trial and find out for your self


https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/i...shop_lightroom

but why only 50 photos a month, get out there take lots of photographs and stop being a crap photographer

[Lory]

but why only 50 photos a month, get out there take lots of photographs and stop being a crap photographer

[Lory]

That made me laugh but in reality, taking lots of photo's doesn't make you a better photographer. Taking the time to analyse the 46 out of 50 that were crap and understanding why, will make you better..

Cederic, there's lots of photography forums, where you can post your photo's and ask for constructive criticism. You've got to have thick skin but its a good way of seeing things through other peoples eyes and picking up tips on what could make it better.

[philsmove]

Taking the time to analyse the 46 out of 50 that were crap and understanding why, will make you better..

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I would not worry if 46 out of 50 are crap provided you are happy with the 4 keepers

When doing landscaps I sometimes take 500 photographs in a day and will very happy if I end up with 4 rellay good keepers.

[Lory]

I would not worry if 46 out of 50 are crap provided you are happy with the 4 keepers

When doing landscaps I sometimes take 500 photographs in a day and will very happy if I end up with 4 rellay good keepers.

True, me too but I'm talking about someone who's getting those 4, by pure luck.

[cederic]

well, around 300 photos on the new camera, bought late November. Probably around 20-30 on my site, only a dozen of which are remotely good (the rest are context, experiments, etc).

Four that I'm really really happy with

[Lynn]

well, around 300 photos on the new camera, bought late November. Probably around 20-30 on my site, only a dozen of which are remotely good (the rest are context, experiments, etc).

Four that I'm really really happy with

Is there a reason you taking so few images? The best way to learn is to take loads - the more you take, the more you process and work on, the more you learn to get the image and processing you're aiming for. And then the higher keeper rate you'll get.

[Lory]

Just thought I'd point you lot towards this, as its a good offer for a 'class 10' card http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...=hotukdeals-21

[Lynn]

Ta Lory - another card always good and I tend to buy when they're on offer like this.

[cederic]

Is there a reason you taking so few images?

Mostly, time. I have several hobbies, all of which lose out to that annoying need to work for a living. As much fun as photography is, it doesn't even make my top three hobby list.

Fifty photographs I haven't yet processed were taken while out shooting. The main reason for being there was the combination of social activity with shooting a longbow up into the air at a 35 degree angle to try and hit a target 200 yards away. Having my camera meant that between shots I could take pictures of other people, but that was very much a secondary activity.

I could've spent the day there doing nothing but photographing people, the estate, the woodland, etc and taken a thousand pictures (well, 600 or so until the battery died) but in the half day that I was there I wanted to actually shoot arrows more than photos.

Of those 50, on-camera review suggests at least a quarter are badly exposed (shooting into sunlight), half the rest were failed attempts to catch an arrow leaving the bow (the camera only shoots at 3fps in good quality, and arrows are three foot long and move at around 180 feet per second, so timing is more luck than anything) and only half a dozen looked any good. But I had a great (half) day out; I'm now trying to find a spare couple of hours to load those pics and process them.

I agree completely with you that I should get out more, take more pictures, spend the time processing them and enjoy the outputs. I'm actually happy with the retention rate I've got - I luxuriate in the ability to take 20 variants of a picture and discard 19 and that isn't making me lazy about trying to set up the camera properly, it just gives me a safety net and chance to experiment - but even one 'good' photo a month is quite enough to keep me a happy bunny.

Back on topic, learning Lightroom is a gradual process for me, where I've already tried every slide in LR3, try various (built-in and downloaded) presets on several pics, but still don't instinctively know the right slider or adjustment needed to properly 'fix' a photograph. I'm still in the "play with several until I see an output I like" stage, and that's oddly one of the things that put me off the LR4 upgrade: I still don't know LR3.

(Except, I do "know" it, I just don't have the photo editing experience to use it, and that's why I'm going to take Philmove's advice and upgrade)

[cederic]

Just thought I'd point you lot towards this, as its a good offer for a 'class 10' card http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...=hotukdeals-21

Good offer? It's a third of the price I paid for the identical model card I'm using now!

Going to cheat though and buy the 32GB one instead

[bigdjiver]

well, around 300 photos on the new camera, bought late November. Probably around 20-30 on my site, only a dozen of which are remotely good (the rest are context, experiments, etc).

Four that I'm really really happy with

To lower the tone I use movie HD mode using a £70 camera (at auction).
Anything I lose in quality is beyond my capabilities to see, but I do get to pick "THE" moment, and is often down to a single frame.

[philsmove]

any one tried CS6 Beata yet

[Lory]

Going to cheat though and buy the 32GB one instead

Be warned though, using a big card, is a bit like putting all your eggs in one basket!

any one tried CS6 Beata yet

No, I haven't even got CS5 yet but I've just watched a demo and it looks amazing and apparently, Camera Raw, that comes with it, now has the same capabilities at Lightroom 4.. The trouble is, if I try it,.... I know i'll WANT IT!

[Lory]

Just watched this and its mind-blowing!