View Poll Results: Should we keep BST throught the winter

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  • BST in Summer, GMT in Winter

    10 55.56%
  • BST ( Government time ) all year

    0 0%
  • GMT (Gods time ) all year

    6 33.33%
  • Bring back stupid time ( double daylight saving)

    1 5.56%
  • don't know dint care

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    Gods Time

    Thai weekend we see the change from BST to Gods Time

    as every the arguments continue about keeping BST even in the Winter
    so what is your preference

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by philsmove View Post
    Thai weekend we see the change from BST to Gods Time
    I just had a Thai curry for lunch! I suspect that was just a Thai-po though (I'll get my coat).

    Quote Originally Posted by philsmove View Post
    as ever the arguments continue about keeping BST even in the Winter
    so what is your preference
    Just one time all year around. I don't care which, just pick one and stick to it.

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    Re: Gods Time

    What I don't understand is, they say it mainly for the dairy farmers but how does the farmer let the cows know?
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    Re: Gods Time

    I hate it when they muck around with the clocks, it affects my equilibrium; pathetic I know (but at least this time of year we get an extra hour in bed, mmmm like that bit)

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    Re: Gods Time

    I had to look up what double daytime saving was and I came across this article...
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-NOT-back.html

    Hey you lovely Scots, don't shoot the messenger, I didn't write it!
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    Re: Gods Time

    I love the long nights in the summer and i really hate the winter.

    In france, they do it differently or so they discussed this morning on breakfast telly!!

    They make the spring change ie: it goes back one hour for us then in the winter they put it back another hour. That way, we get continued longer days but it is dark in the mornings.

    I think originally it was done not only for the farmers but also for school children walking home in the dark but whats the difference between walking home or walking too school in the dark. Also, whats kids do you know these days that walk too and from school on their own.

    Anyway, vive le french way i say !!!

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by philsmove View Post
    Thai weekend we see the change from BST to Gods Time
    gods time ? thats a new one on me

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    gods time ? thats a new one on me
    recommended reading The Hills Is Lonely

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by philsmove View Post
    recommended reading The Hills Is Lonely
    what?eh?

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    I think originally it was done not only for the farmers but also for school children walking home in the dark but whats the difference between walking home or walking too school in the dark. Also, whats kids do you know these days that walk too and from school on their own.
    I remember an experiment with this, I think it was in the late '60s or early '70s. They kept BST through the winter. We had to go to school in the dark and were issued flourescent armbands so we weren't run over in the dark on the way to school. They were like swim bands but you couldn't inflate them.

    I saw one of my classmates get hit hard on the head by the black wing mirror of the bus that was taking us to school - the bus could see him but he couldn't see the black mirror in the dark as he stepped towards the kerb while the bus was pulling in

    I can't imagine it was because one boy got bashed on the head in Hampshire, but the experiment was considered a failure and we went back to normal.

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor View Post
    I remember an experiment with this, I think it was in the late '60s or early '70s. They kept BST through the winter.
    Was reading about this today - it was tried for 2 years. They had fewer evening car accidents, but obviously more in the morning.


    Personally I'd rather keep things as they are. Yes it's depressing going home in the dark in the winter, but I live in the south central area, and even as it is currently it's only just light when I get to work at 8am in the morning. If we ended up making it lighter in the evening, I'd still be driving home in the dark in the evening (it would just go dark at 4 instead of 3, but I'd have even darker mornings).

    Plus I'm married to a farmer - given they're out at 5am in the morning and wouldn't finish til about 5.30 in the winter (having to then go out later as well), it would be nice for them to get some lightness in the morning before 9am. God knows what it would be like the further north you are.

    Some of the argument is having lighter evenings would make kids & adults do more exercise in the evenings as they'd be lighter for longer. But realistically, people can and do exercise indoors, and surely if it's lighter in the evenings it means more opportunities for socialising, drinking, BBQs etc - unlikely to encourage more exercise!

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by emmylou25 View Post


    Personally I'd rather keep things as they are. Yes it's depressing going home in the dark in the winter, but I live in the south central area, and even as it is currently it's only just light when I get to work at 8am in the morning. If we ended up making it lighter in the evening, I'd still be driving home in the dark in the evening (it would just go dark at 4 instead of 3, but I'd have even darker mornings).

    Plus I'm married to a farmer - given they're out at 5am in the morning and wouldn't finish til about 5.30 in the winter (having to then go out later as well), it would be nice for them to get some lightness in the morning before 9am. God knows what it would be like the further north you are.
    If they did not alter the time in the first place and just left it on GMT, it would not effect the mornings and night this time of year because the clocks are going back in autumn to the time they would have been if they had not been put forward in the spring (BST). So it would only effect the springtime.

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    Re: Gods Time

    I'm reasonably happy with how things are. After all, we are looking forward to endless months of it being dark, cold and miserable no matter what we do.

    The only change I'd make is to make the clocks spring forward at the end of February instead of the end of March. I don't really understand why the change back happens about 7 weeks before the solstice in December but the change forward happens about 12 weeks after the solstice. Does anyone know the reason?

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    Re: Gods Time

    It appears there's a new type of time to add to the mix - Apple Time.
    This is where one's iPhone tells one the time in GMT, but the iPhone alarm works in BST. And goes off an hour late. Those little scamps...

    Anyone else hit by that one? Luckily, I was already awake when my alarm should have gone off this morning. And having breakfast when it finally did go off...
    Last edited by straycat; 1st-November-2010 at 10:08 AM.

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor View Post
    I remember an experiment with this, I think it was in the late '60s or early '70s. They kept BST through the winter. We had to go to school in the dark and were issued flourescent armbands so we weren't run over in the dark on the way to school. They were like swim bands but you couldn't inflate them.

    I saw one of my classmates get hit hard on the head by the black wing mirror of the bus that was taking us to school - the bus could see him but he couldn't see the black mirror in the dark as he stepped towards the kerb while the bus was pulling in

    I can't imagine it was because one boy got bashed on the head in Hampshire, but the experiment was considered a failure and we went back to normal.
    I think the A + E numbers must have been an awfully lot higher up here during that experiment...

    I am so sleepy in the mornings in winter that I am glad about the change when it comes as I can actually see where I am going at 6 - 7am!!! (Gorgeous Sunrise this morning, which has of course given way to pouring rain)

    I think we should just have a job that can be done in Australia /New Zealand for 6 months I think Trampy has the ticket

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by whitetiger1518 View Post
    I think Trampy has the ticket
    WT
    Yeah but I'm pretty sure he used it to get where he is.. I don't think it's transferable anyway !!

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    Re: Gods Time

    Looking at the poll responses, from a small sample of people (but probably a sample that has thought about it for at least a few minutes) we are split fairly evenly between staying as we are (my preference) and keeping GMT all the time (my second favourite). So far no one prefers BST all year round. I think this is the first democratic poll that I have ever felt completely comfortable with!

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    Re: Gods Time

    I think it's about right the way it is (although like jivecat I don't understand why the change in spring isn't at the equivalent time to the change in autumn).

    I looked here (http://www.sunrisesunsetmap.com/) to check sunset/sunrise times for where I am.

    Sunrise on 21 Dec is 08:13 GMT - and if we had BST in winter it would be 09:13 which I don't much fancy - I'd already be at work before the sun rose.

    On the other hand on 21 June, sunrise is 04:43 BST and sunset is 21:31 BST. If we were still on GMT then the sun would rise at 03:43 and set at 20:31.

    But unless I'm at Southport, I'm unlikely to be doing much at 03:43 in the morning, so it does make sense to take the hour from the morning and have an extra hour's daylight in the evening between 20:31 and 21:31 when I'm awake.

    So my vote is to leave things as they are.
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    Re: Gods Time

    So we have all just "lost" an hour , but we get it back in November.
    But, if the government makes the change permanent, we will all lose an hour, for ever .

    Were does that hour go?

    If everyone in the UK loses an hour , will we have lost 7,000 Years

    Can Brian Cox answerer that

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    Re: Gods Time

    Quote Originally Posted by philsmove View Post
    So we have all just "lost" an hour , but we get it back in November.
    But, if the government makes the change permanent, we will all lose an hour, for ever .

    Were does that hour go?

    If everyone in the UK loses an hour , will we have lost 7,000 Years

    Can Brian Cox answerer that
    as "time" in this case is simply a daft numbering system to record the passage of actual time, does it really matter that we lose some of the daft numbers? They can rename Tuesday "Purple" and have it end at 4pm for all i care. In fact that'd be cool.

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