Blues Baby Blues

[rtwwpad]

Anyone have any more information on this?

http://swingpatrol.co.uk/event-item/...aby-blues-.php

Like location, classes, hours etc? Useful things people put on their website normally.

[straycat]

Anyone have any more information on this?

http://swingpatrol.co.uk/event-item/...aby-blues-.php

Like location, classes, hours etc? Useful things people put on their website normally.

I suspect it will be up soon. I was chatting to Pip at the weekend, and she said she was about to kick things into gear. Knowing the organisers, I believe this will be an excellent event.

[Gerry]

What a pity this is over the same weekend as Cats WCS weekend.

[Dottie]

What a pity this is over the same weekend as Cats WCS weekend.

[Minnie M]

Same weekend as Rhythm Riot too

Swing Patrol are a lindy organisation, so I would assume the emphasis would be on lindy blues and lindy dancers, rather than the blues Ceroc dancers are familiar with.

[straycat]

Same weekend as Rhythm Riot too

Swing Patrol are a lindy organisation, so I would assume the emphasis would be on lindy blues and lindy dancers

Swing Patrol are, yes... but the emphasis will be on blues. There's no such thing as 'Lindy blues' (unless you're talking about super-slow Lindy, which to my mind is just super-slow Lindy)

[Andy McGregor]

Swing Patrol are, yes... but the emphasis will be on blues. There's no such thing as 'Lindy blues' (unless you're talking about super-slow Lindy, which to my mind is just super-slow Lindy)

As opposed to 'blues'

I think that blues is a clearly defined dance. It's just that everyone's definition is different

[Lory]

I think that blues is a clearly defined dance. It's just that everyone's definition is different

[straycat]

As opposed to 'blues'

I think that blues is a clearly defined dance. It's just that everyone's definition is different

I think it misleading to refer to it as 'Lindy blues'. True - it's the variety of blues that Lindy folk (the ones that like blues dancing) tend to prefer, and it shares some common roots with Lindy - but it's not derived from Lindy.

The flavour of blues dance that is generally taught in an MJ context, on the other hand, tends to be a bit of a fusion between MJ and blues.... (usually incorporating more of the former than the latter) Which is one of the reasons why the definitions get so confused on here, I think. The US blues organisations tend to be a lot clearer on the definitions (here's one example).

[Minnie M]

I think it misleading to refer to it as 'Lindy blues'. True - it's the variety of blues that Lindy folk (the ones that like blues dancing) tend to prefer, and it shares some common roots with Lindy - but it's not derived from Lindy........

Blues danced by a Lindy dancer looks and feels different to a MJ dancer dancing it - be it the same dance.

I didn't mean they were different dances, and as the organiser is Lindy based, I would have thought it would be lindy biassed (all assumptions, I really don't know)

[Andy McGregor]

The US blues organisations tend to be a lot clearer on the definitions (here's one example).

It looks like the dance isn't really being defined. The definition is so loose you could be describing any activity between a man and a woman

[straycat]

It looks like the dance isn't really being defined. The definition is so loose you could be describing any activity between a man and a woman

Like a domestic?

[straycat]

Blues danced by a Lindy dancer looks and feels different to a MJ dancer dancing it - be it the same dance.

Doesn't entirely surprise me
Can you describe the difference (in terms of feel)?

[David Bailey]

I think it misleading to refer to it as 'Lindy blues'. True - it's the variety of blues that Lindy folk (the ones that like blues dancing) tend to prefer, and it shares some common roots with Lindy - but it's not derived from Lindy.

The flavour of blues dance that is generally taught in an MJ context, on the other hand, tends to be a bit of a fusion between MJ and blues.... (usually incorporating more of the former than the latter) Which is one of the reasons why the definitions get so confused on here, I think. The US blues organisations tend to be a lot clearer on the definitions (here's one example).

Yep.

There's a US Blues dance style.

There's also a style called "blues" in the MJ community.

These are two different dance forms, but with some similarities.

[rtwwpad]

Which would you call what Rocky and Val, Dale and Sarah dance?

[Rocky]

Which would you call what Rocky and Val, Dale and Sarah dance?

Well US style is more pulse, pulse - pulse, pulse - whereas what we do is sway and sway. There is a lot of similarity in the moves that are used between the two styles but there's no question that the US style has a vintage look about it which suits the Lindy crowd, whereas what we do has a more modern look which suits the MJ crowd.

Neither's right or wrong, they're just different.

[straycat]

There's a US Blues dance style.

Which is where it all started

There's also a style called "blues" in the MJ community.

Which originated from the what you refer to as the 'US Blues dance style', and I refer to as 'Blues'.

It feels a bit like an argument I used to have with a an American friend - who insisted that the term 'football' referred solely to American football, and that to describe 'English football', one should use the term 'soccer'. My suggestion that American 'football' should actually be called 'rugby for wimps' didn't solicit quite the enthusiasm I'd hoped for .

Which would you call what Rocky and Val, Dale and Sarah dance?

Believe it or not, I don't think I've ever (knowingly) seen them dance. Is there a Youtube link around?

[David Bailey]

Which originated from the what you refer to as the 'US Blues dance style', and I refer to as 'Blues'.

I know what you mean. And if this were not an MJ board, I'd be happy naming "blues" as the US style, as that style is clearly the originator (and, presumably, most popular).

On the other hand, "blues" here is mainly used to describe the UK MJ variant.

It feels a bit like an argument I used to have with a an American friend - who insisted that the term 'football' referred solely to American football, and that to describe 'English football', one should use the term 'soccer'.

Well, that's a good analogy actually.

In the US, "football" means "American Football".
Outside the US, "football" means "soccer".

My suggestion that American 'football' should actually be called 'rugby for wimps' didn't solicit quite the enthusiasm I'd hoped for

Extending the analogy further, I wonder what the equivalent dance comment would be...

[robd]

Which would you call what Rocky and Val, Dale and Sarah dance?

Even between those two couples I think I'd see quite different styles (albeit I haven't seen Dale and Sarah dance together for a while)

[straycat]

I know what you mean. And if this were not an MJ board, I'd be happy naming "blues" as the US style, as that style is clearly the originator (and, presumably, most popular).

On the other hand, "blues" here is mainly used to describe the UK MJ variant.

Fair point. I suppose my original point is that it shouldn't be called 'Lindy Blues' - 'US Blues', would probably be a far better description for this board's purposes...

Extending the analogy further, I wonder what the equivalent dance comment would be...

Well - as (thankfully) no-one has resorted to slagging off either of the varieties of Blues under discussion, it's probably best not to go there..... (but if you fancy inventing a form of Blues that requires body-armor, and bringing on a substitute at frequent intervals throughout the dance - for example, whenever one changes from closed hold to open or back again - I'd be willing to give it a go...)