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    Re: learning the blues

    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Too kind...


    MJ Blues has a different posture, it's arguably more raunchy, and the music is different. So those are either plus or minus points.

    Blues blues is not really something I can comment on, I don't know much about it.
    Cant see any minus points... !!

    Blues, I saw Lemoncake earlier said that she had never actually been taught the blues and im thinking back and I dont think I have either.. go figure. !!

    Thinking even further, I dont really know what blues is only that I love the music, it feels good but the moves are the same arn't they?.. just delayed slightly or taken advantage off.

    So I dont really know much about it either. !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jack View Post
    What I mean is that it seems to be a bit bump n grind. The emphasis being on the physical connection rather than the music.
    Heck no. Although Blues (as in, MJ Blues) is usually danced very close, the physical contact doesn't have to be there, and the musical awareness is almost a pre-requisite.

    Blues is very intimate dancing, but physical contact is almost an irrelevance within that. Watch the top dancers and although the movements, eye contact, sensuality and overall mood of the dance is extremely intimate, the physical contact is often far less intimate than a welcome hug to a friend.

    The best blues dancers could dance with an air gap and still be displaying the musicality, the attitude and the connection to their partner that epitomises blues (to me).

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    Re: learning the blues

    @straycat Any clips that you would recommend?

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    Re: learning the blues

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    Cant see any minus points... !!


    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    Blues, I saw Lemoncake earlier said that she had never actually been taught the blues and im thinking back and I dont think I have either.. go figure. !!
    That's because, really, there's no such thing as "MJ Blues" - it's simply a marketing term for "dancing MJ slowly".

    If you want proof, look that the DVD for Ceroc's Blues Competition a couple of months back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    Thinking even further, I dont really know what blues is only that I love the music, it feels good but the moves are the same arn't they?.. just delayed slightly or taken advantage off.

    So I dont really know much about it either. !
    You probably know more about it than many people teaching it.

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    Re: learning the blues

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jack View Post
    @straycat Any clips that you would recommend?
    Did you look at the thread I linked to in my last post? Loads of clips there...

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    Re: learning the blues

    I have now done a Sara White Blues workshop and two David and Val Blues workshops so I have begun to get my feet wet, so to speak and I'm loving it. However, I live too far from Newbury to make the regular pilgrimage during the week so I was hoping to find some regular classes nearer to my home, e.g. Bournemouth. I understand that I'm not the only one if you read this thread. At the moment, when I go into a Chill-out/Blues room, I feel a bit like someone going to a foreign country only knowing a few words of the language. It can get me by but that's as far as it goes. I would love to become more fluent but feel regular teaching is the best way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straycat View Post
    Did you look at the thread I linked to in my last post? Loads of clips there...
    Watched a couple and I thought they were demos rather than examples of real social dancing.

    It's quite difficult to find the latter on YT. In tango I can only think readily of a few examples eg

    http://www.youtube.com/user/magikmiles
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Jantango

    (Otherwise they tend to be hidden away in Facebook accounts)

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    Re: learning the blues

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jack View Post
    Watched a couple and I thought they were demos rather than examples of real social dancing.
    Well - the demos were all pure improvisation so I tend to count them as social dancing examples.

    Putting myself slightly on the line here, but how about this one? The from a couple of weeks ago.

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    Re: learning the blues

    Booked

    love blues, but always so much more to learn. So looking forward to it

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    1 way to have all your questions answered - with an outstretched hand

    To just say thank you to Maja - she quite simply answered those questions for me last night. (And cut through any chickening out/helping build confidence!)

    Through just asking me to dance, the questions were answered in a second:
    How - "Just have a go!"(said through a smile)
    Where - "Next to me" (said through asking me to dance & getting on the floor)
    When - Now! (implied through fox like cunningness, using her dance floor authority on beginners to obey (that and asking for the dance with several folk around - they don't drill the "if you're asked, go dance" rule for nothing )

    Hehe, still left with exactly the same questions as Cederic though
    The feeling of practise is for practise time, dance time is for dancing what you've practised.

    Blimey does trying a blues dance make you aware of how vast an expanse of time a song can have for expression, musicality and goofing around!

    Do many people find they cna just jam what would otherwise be called musicality course material, and just general jamming style movement into their blues dancing? Seems like it'd feel a little silly to be doing rote teaching of "moves" but can see how it could help to get some inspiration/ideas.

    Do dance styles transfer? Jazz, R&B, etc?
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    Re: learning the blues

    The old tunes are still the best


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    Re: learning the blues

    Would be interested in feedback from people who've done a fair bit of blues dancing:

    Chris Maraffi's Swango Blues Fundamentals (their DVD split has been split into 10 minute chunks and put on youtube for free)



    Seems like they've made the effort to see how Blues, classic styles, and movements from swing and tango can be fused (esp the movement as a couple from tango).

    From a beginner blues dancer, it seems useful - you don't really want to start doing treacle jive, or large jive moves (in essence cut the start and end of any jive move, and see if it fits with adaptation), so the tango style of movement helps.

    Portlandbluesdancers user also has a few videos - talking about the pulse, lunges etc.

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    Re: learning the blues

    Quote Originally Posted by t0mt0m View Post
    Would be interested in feedback from people who've done a fair bit of blues dancing:
    It's good. Nice intro to proper blues. Well explained, very clear.

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    Re: learning the blues

    Quote Originally Posted by t0mt0m View Post
    Chris Maraffi's Swango Blues Fundamentals
    I haven't been through it all, but last time I looked at Swango, it seemed to be an incomplete fusion - doing a few Blues moves then a few Tango moves then repeat etc.

    More of an emulsion than a fusion - like milk where the fat is just finely divided globules suspended in water, not dissolved at an atomic scale.

    It may have moved on, but it's not like Amir's Jango - MJ and Tango seem more miscible !

    Of course, if you just want to skim off the pure Blues and discard the Tango, it may be just as well it's not fused ?

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    Re: learning the blues

    Reminds me of a thread on a US Blues forum (now defunct) that was sniffy about UK MJ Blues - I used to find it by googling [ceroc plague] !

    They pointed to as an example of good practice.
    Plenty more from [Blues Shout] out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricD View Post
    Swango seemed to be an incomplete fusion - doing a few Blues moves then a few Tango moves then repeat etc.
    PS Are we confusing Blues and Swing ? Oops!

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    Re: learning the blues

    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post





    You probably know more about it than many people teaching it.
    your after a frot arn't ya... i know your ways

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    Re: learning the blues

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    your after a frot arn't ya... i know your ways
    I've no idea what this "frot" is of which you speak, but I'm sure I would never do such a thing, it sounds like it might be crass, and I'm a posh Tango Dancer now, don't you know.

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