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    Would u??

    Well, in the spirit of the Would U threads, how could I resist...

    So the question is:

    Would U pay £10 for a DJ workshop from a DJ playing music that most people didn't want to dance to and who has a reputation amongst the majority of people I know (accepted he has a small following) for playing music so random that it makes Marmite appear as nectar from the Gods...?

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    Re: Would u??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    Well, in the spirit of the Would U threads, how could I resist...

    So the question is:

    Would U pay £10 for a DJ workshop from a DJ playing music that most people didn't want to dance to and who has a reputation amongst the majority of people I know (accepted he has a small following) for playing music so random that it makes Marmite appear as nectar from the Gods...?
    I will respond to this as it's not about me*.

    I would pay for a workshop that goes over the technical side of being a DJ. I'd have to be reassured that the DJ knew something about the technicalities and equipment options. I wouldn't pay for a workshop that told me what music I should play.

    * My DJ workshops are £500 an hour

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    Re: Would u??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    it makes Marmite appear as nectar from the Gods...
    but it IS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor View Post
    I would pay for a workshop that goes over the technical side of being a DJ.:


    particularly one that compared and explained the different ways you can operate from a laptop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor View Post
    * My DJ workshops are £500 an hour
    I've seen some of your playlists on another forum, so can only assume the cost you've quoted includes the purchase of all the equipment and a 30 year old white van to put them in..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    Marmite appear as nectar from the Gods...?
    I love marmite
    dont forget music is completely subjective i mean i dont always like vinces music and we all know he is a God
    ( Ok i do have to admit i have loved his sets lately )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I've seen some of your playlists on another forum, so can only assume the cost you've quoted includes the purchase of all the equipment and a 30 year old white van to put them in..
    I can't think of any playlists I've posted. I think you mean the list I posted that was in the thread titled "Ten Tracks that DJs use as floor-fillers". I stand by that post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor
    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Jiver
    any other DJs are prepared to list a top ten that would be even better. Thanks....SJ
    I think of myself as a teacher. However, I probably DJ more than most MJ DJs as I choose the music for most of our nights - usually 4 times a week.
    Floor fillers on a particular night depend on the audience and you get a feel for what gets them on the floor during the first hour of a dance. Most songs that consistently fill the floor are those classics that I feel are overplayed. But who can argue with a floor full of happy dancers? There's a whole load of new(er) tracks that fill the floor, but we don't know if they're going to be consistent floor fillers until they've left the charts and radio playlists. I think that a song needs to have stood the test of time and filled the floors for reasons other than being "new" to become a true "floor-filler". Here's some consistent floor fillers that spring to mind;

    Dance The Night Away - The Mavericks
    Now I Can Dance - Tina Arena
    Hero (Metro Mix) - Enrique
    Amazing - George Michael
    Have You Met Miss Jones - Robbie Williams
    Save the Last Dance For Me - Michael Buble
    Billie Jean - Michael Jackson (and almost any other Jackson track)
    Played-A-Live (The Bongo Song) - Safri Duo
    Filthy/Gorgeous - Scissor Sisters
    Sweet Home Chicago - The Blues Brothers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor View Post
    I can't think of any playlists I've posted. I think you mean the list I posted that was in the thread titled "Ten Tracks that DJs use as floor-fillers". I stand by that post.
    LOL... yes that's the one. To be fair I can see how that works down near Worthing where people go to die, but if you played some of those tracks anywhere much North of there you would be strung up by your knackers and repeatedly beaten like a pinata - trouble is I think you might enjoy that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    LOL... yes that's the one. To be fair I can see how that works down near Worthing where people go to die, but if you played some of those tracks anywhere much North of there you would be strung up by your knackers and repeatedly beaten like a pinata - trouble is I think you might enjoy that...
    We don't have such things as pinatas in Worthing. I don't even know what a pinata is

    And don't try to catch me out by saying you going to "be fair". On here?

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    Re: Would u??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    Well, in the spirit of the Would U threads, how could I resist...

    So the question is:

    Would U pay £10 for a DJ workshop from a DJplaying music that most people didn't want to dance to and who has a reputation amongst the majority of people I know (accepted he has a small following) for playing music so random that it makes Marmite appear as nectar from the Gods...?
    Actually, I would! So let me know when and where your £10 DJ worshop is, Rocky

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    I would have thought you did some research, read articles, informed decisions via magazines then shadow someone to learn the ropes. I suppose if you're a lazy ****er then you could do this pay someone idea, but really you would want to have heard him play a few sets first or be impressed by his reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor View Post
    We don't have such things as pinatas in Worthing. I don't even know what a pinata is?
    A festive ass stuffed with sweets..... very you...

    Anyway, from one ass to another and back on thread - here is a little snippet from the advert for the event. Now, there's lots in the whole text that make me smile, but this middle section is just glorious!

    Who is ? (Does he really need introducing?!)
    Good grief, the ego has landed.. (?!)

    has been a professional DJ for some 19 years now, with over 16 years’ experience in Modern Jive DJing. He DJ’d for in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Perth, Stirling, Aberdeen, Dundee, Falkirk as well as various weekend events and in Twyford.

    I love the 'various weekend events and in Twyford bit' Just makes me smile that Twyford is mentioned as some sort of mecca for DJing..

    then moved to independent DJ’ing and made his name DJing in main Rooms and Blues Rooms including weekenders..
    Yes he made his 'name' in Blues rooms by going up to any and every DJ playing and telling them they should change their music and put his CD on! Anybody guess what the name he was given after that was...?

    As well as DJing for MJ venues, was a successful DJ doing the glamorous side of DJing (weddings, bar miztvars, etc) as well as club and student bar DJing.
    Glamorous side of DJing?? Bar Mitzvahs and student bar DJing??


    All very entertaining..
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    Re: Would u??

    If the lessons were concentrating on the technical side of DJ'ing then I don't think it matters whether you like their music tastes or not. Rocky, could you be more specific about what the DJ in question is actually planning on teaching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor View Post
    Most songs that consistently fill the floor are those classics that I feel are overplayed. But who can argue with a floor full of happy dancers?
    ~SNIP~ Here's some consistent floor fillers that spring to mind;

    Dance The Night Away - The Mavericks
    Now I Can Dance - Tina Arena
    Hero (Metro Mix) - Enrique
    Amazing - George Michael
    Have You Met Miss Jones - Robbie Williams
    Save the Last Dance For Me - Michael Buble
    Billie Jean - Michael Jackson (and almost any other Jackson track)
    Played-A-Live (The Bongo Song) - Safri Duo
    Filthy/Gorgeous - Scissor Sisters
    Sweet Home Chicago - The Blues Brothers
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    LOL... yes that's the one. To be fair I can see how that works down near Worthing where people go to die, but if you played some of those tracks anywhere much North of there you would be strung up
    I'm afraid that even considerably North of Worthing, there are weekly class nights where exactly these tracks would indeed fill the floor.

    I can't blame DJs for playing them - as Andy says, they may be overplayed, but who can argue with a floor full of happy dancers?
    Love dance, will travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    I'm afraid that even considerably North of Worthing, there are weekly class nights where exactly these tracks would indeed fill the floor.
    Yes, I was thinking myself that those tracks would go down a storm at a Cheshunt Ceroc Freestyle, but then I remembered that 90% of the punters are deaf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    If the lessons were concentrating on the technical side of DJ'ing then I don't think it matters whether you like their music tastes or not. Rocky, could you be more specific about what the DJ in question is actually planning on teaching?
    I agree, but when the lesson also incorporates 'his' take on how you fill a floor and 'sculpt great nights of dancing' and has a renown as being a DJ that a sloth's paw full of people love, against an army of dancers who really, really dislike - then my contention is that it ain't worth the money..

    More from the advert...

    has built his reputation on sculpting great nights of dancing. He knows it isn’t good enough to just play a collection of great songs. The songs must fit together to make a whole. Each track has its context, and if the context is matched by the music THEN a track will become a great track. Wrong context… and your great track isn’t great… played at the wrong time it is the wrong track.

    The workshop itself will cover some of the techniques of sculpting sets, how to ‘read’ floors, track selection... blah, blah...


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    Re: Would u??

    Of course the trouble is we are punters and have no idea how it all works. Hence the reason we don't DJ. My current playlist in the car consists of the following (consigns himself to scornful looks) which I would quite happily dance to, although not in this order. I'm sure all the DJ's could point out why this selection of songs wouldn't work in their venue etc. and that's ok but I would still get up and dance to all of them.

    Baby What you you want me to do - Etta James
    You Got It - Lucas Grabel
    She Said - Plan B
    Funky Cold Medina - Tone-Loc
    Childlike Wildlike - Jason Mraz
    Carry out (feat Justin Timberlake) - Timbaland
    Crystallised - The XX - maybe not, the more i listen to it the more convinced i might be able to dance to it.
    Word Up - Willis
    Telephone - Lady Gaga
    Club Thing - Yoav
    Rollacosta - Robin Thicke
    Baby get Down - Tomi
    Smells like funk - B.E.P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    [B][I]has built his reputation on sculpting great nights of dancing. He knows it isn’t good enough to just play a collection of great songs. The songs must fit together to make a whole. Each track has its context, and if the context is matched by the music THEN a track will become a great track. Wrong context… and your great track isn’t great… played at the wrong time it is the wrong track.
    Personally, I don't really like 's music choices, but the last set I saw him do at a weekender last year he was really popular and everyone was on the dancefloor and they all loved his set. I didn't get it...I thought it was mostly "blah", but I was clearly in the minority.

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    Re: Would u??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I agree, but when the lesson also incorporates 'his' take on how you fill a floor and 'sculpt great nights of dancing' and has a renown as being a DJ that a sloth's paw full of people love, against an army of dancers who really, really dislike - then my contention is that it ain't worth the money..
    I can't imagine anyone is going to book on to this who hasn't
    a) heard XXXX DJ
    b) liked what they heard

    and only after the event will they know if it was worth the money.

    Quote Originally Posted by rtwwpad View Post
    Of course the trouble is we are punters and have no idea how it all works.
    Push button.
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    Last edited by Lory; 20th-April-2010 at 06:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    Personally, I don't really like 's music choices, but the last set I saw him do at a weekender last year he was really popular and everyone was on the dancefloor and they all loved his set. I didn't get it...I thought it was mostly "blah", but I was clearly in the minority.
    Well everyone wasn't on the dance floor because if you didn't like it presumably you weren't dancing? And if you were, then what that shows is that some people would rather just dance to anything than sit out? You've paid your money, you're there so you may as well dance..

    The reality is that anyone can play a safe set if they have to, or are directed to, occasionally..

    I'm not saying that he doesn't have a niche but to claim his DJIng style lends itself to great success is clearly a case of false advertising. That's not so much a niche as it is a crack..

    Of course his course may catapult you into the heady and glamorous heights of DJing at bar mitzvahs and student bars [sic], so what do I know?
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