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    Re: Things that frustrate

    Oops, my fault. Rob is coming over at the end of the month, Beach Ballroom dates were moved and I forgot to remove the original dates from my calendar. I was having 2 Beach Ballroom events in July. I've pm-ed him to apologise.
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    Re: Things that frustrate

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn View Post
    About halfway through the dance he just 'switched off' and went through the motions of the dance, looking really bored.
    I'm afraid to say that I've often 'switched off' mid-dance; but for a completely different reason. If my partner manages to get halfway through the track without so much as even glancing at me then that's the point at which I switch off. It feels like a large part of the connection is totally absent.

    I realise some people are shy, and maybe feel intimidated by eye-contact; I know I felt that way when I first started MJ. However, quite often the people who do this are highly competent dancers, so it can't be from concentration or worrying about their technique.

    I'm sure people have discussed eye-contact on here before, but I thought I'd just mention it in connection with 'switching off'. Sorry if my viewpoint offends people who are shy, but it's the way I feel.

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    Re: Things that frustrate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bubble View Post
    I'm afraid to say that I've often 'switched off' mid-dance; but for a completely different reason. If my partner manages to get halfway through the track without so much as even glancing at me then that's the point at which I switch off. It feels like a large part of the connection is totally absent.

    I realise some people are shy, and maybe feel intimidated by eye-contact; I know I felt that way when I first started MJ. However, quite often the people who do this are highly competent dancers, so it can't be from concentration or worrying about their technique.

    I'm sure people have discussed eye-contact on here before, but I thought I'd just mention it in connection with 'switching off'. Sorry if my viewpoint offends people who are shy, but it's the way I feel.
    I don't see why this should offend people - I think it's perfectly valid.

    However ... I am absolutely appalling at eye-contact. To the point where I have to consciously remind myself to look at my partner in case they think I'm rude. This is after 10/12 years of Ceroc!

    I honestly don't know how much of it is shyness, or just bad habit. It's not just on the dance floor, it's all the time. I do sometimes wonder if having worked with blind people for 16 years hasn't helped, because I'm so used to not needing to make eye contact.

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    Re: Things that frustrate

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel View Post
    I don't see why this should offend people - I think it's perfectly valid.

    However ... I am absolutely appalling at eye-contact. To the point where I have to consciously remind myself to look at my partner in case they think I'm rude. This is after 10/12 years of Ceroc!

    I honestly don't know how much of it is shyness, or just bad habit. It's not just on the dance floor, it's all the time. I do sometimes wonder if having worked with blind people for 16 years hasn't helped, because I'm so used to not needing to make eye contact.

    Rachel
    Right or wrongly (!) I never got the impression that you were wishing you were somewhere else we have danced. I think there's probably a big difference between what yourself and Bubble are describing

    It's one thing for someone to make no eye contact, - together with a blank look which seems to be gormlessly gazing around the room... (which is what I would guess that Bubble is talking about)

    ...but quite another, to have minimal eye contact, but lots of big smiles (during a fast dance) or, half closed eyes which seems to suggest you're drifting away in the dance/music (on a slow one)

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    Re: Things that frustrate

    Well, as this is slowly drifting into a resurrection of the eye contact threads of past....

    Some of the most memorable dances I have enjoyed have involved very little eye contact though these have been in closed hold for the majority of the dance. I think some people can overplay the importance of eye contact though I still believe it important if not in closed hold that the follow be looking at the lead, whether at chest level or above as not doing so means they miss a lot of potentially crucial lead/follow information

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