Sad? In what way? Sad the Minnie does not want to go to classes? Sad because people will miss her from those classes? or she is a sad person generally? or maybe she doesn't like the darkness of the winter months? or are you suggesting that YOU are slightly sad?
its not clear
Tango is a special case. For Tango(*), optimum learning results are gained by dancing with beginners who have been to Buenos Aires (**).
(*) Note the capitalisation. If it helps, think of how you'd write the name of any other deity, such as God, or Buddha.
(**) It is not necessary that they danced Tango there. As any Tangoista will know, merely breathing the atmosphere at BsAs immediately moves your Tango onto a higher plane than the rest of us can possibly imagine.
thanks Smurfman
After 15 years of dancing MJ I think I have learnt everything I want to know - however, I often join classes as a lead to help the newbies. Sounds arrogant ??? If so I apologise, I really am happy with what I know - which is primarily to follow. However, I do attend some classes different dance styles
sad Minnie
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Age is a question of mind over matter, if you don't mind, it doesn't matter
Leroy (Satchel) Paige (1906-1982)
Mickey Mouse's girlfriend, Minnie, made her film debut, along with Mickey, in "Steamboat Willie" on November 18, 1928.
That date is recognized as her official birthday.
Sounds reasonable to me.
Whilst I appreciate that there's always something new to learn, that doesn't mean that everyone should keep learning whether they want to or not. Sometimes you just reach a point where you're happy with what you know and are just happy to keep on enjoying it.
Well they have been doing it in Ceroc Wellington, New Zealand for many years (very sucessfully too) - you pay for what workshops and what dance events you want to attend.
http://www.simplyceroc.com
Too late for this year.... but for those planning ahead, maybe next year...
As to not wanting to do lessons and wanting to socialise and just dance... I cannot see anything sad with that.
If you are happy with how you dance and want to just go along for fun, why not?
I prefer to spend my time at weekenders, socialising and putting into practice everything i've already learnt.
There's nothing sad about it!
For me, there has to be times to sit back and simply enjoy what I already know or it all seems a bit pointless.
Although, I do know and accept that people dance for different reasons and I met a couple recently, who've been doing ballroom lessons for over two years now and I asked them, "so where do you actually 'dance' then?" and they replied that they've never actually been dancing anywhere, apart from their weekly lessons.
Well, if that floats there boat, then who am I to criticise, or call 'sad' for that matter?
And BTW, just because I haven't done lessons at weekenders for some time now (apart from privates) doesn't mean I don't learn something everytime I go.......I ALWAYS come away from one having learnt something.
Whether that's from picking stuff up by watching people I admire and trying to copy them, or from mirroring stuff my partner does or following something new or simply creating something myself, that often comes out of nowhere, when ones 'in the zone'!
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"If you're going to do something tonight, that you know you'll be sorry for in the morning, plan a lie in." Lorraine
I actually wasn't thinking specifically about modern jive. Merely on not wanting to learn any more (from any source).
If the thread is read properly I'm not sure why the wet haddock.And BTW, just because I haven't done lessons at weekenders for some time now (apart from privates) doesn't mean I don't learn something everytime I go.......I ALWAYS come away from one having learnt something.
I don't think any one would think of calling your situation in any way sad.
Perhaps a little parasitical at gender balanced events, but not sad.
Though from what I've seen and heard, that's actually a fairly reasonable assumption.
I've definitely seen a few posts about gender-balanced events along the lines of "men over in the classes" (more men want to do classes), and "women over in the freestyle" (more men want to do drinking ). It seemed that way at the last two (gender balanced) weekenders I went to as well.
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"If you're going to do something tonight, that you know you'll be sorry for in the morning, plan a lie in." Lorraine
Well, if I'm worn out, it's because Katie ensures I'm up around 7am every morning, unlike the late night dancers who can have a lie in. Oh, except I stay up until the end of the dancing anyhow, even if by Sunday "Your ego's writing cheques your body can't cash" applies to me in spades.
To be clear (and serious for a moment), I wasn't agreeing with Frodo that you were being inconsiderate. I don't think anyone (male or female) has any obligations to make themselves available either during classes or the evening dancingHow inconsiderate is THAT then!
Well as I love spelling things out at great length .
All other things being equal+ the weekender* model Lory has outlined probably isn't entirely self sustaining.
I don't know if all other things are equal. Lory might have done millions of classes in the past, or sustained the system in other ways.
So all I was saying (and all I could say) was that far from being sad, perhaps it wasn't entirely self sustaining.
Granted I would have used the more diplomatic, if verbose, language I'm trying to use now if it wasn't for the context of recent posts with Lory.
If Minnie M had posted that comment, I couldn't have even said 'perhaps' or 'a little' because I know enough about Minnie M to know that all other things are definitely not equal.
However, this is far from saying Lory was being inconsiderate in her weekender* model because:-
- A ) It doesn't follow that because an activity isn't self sustaining, those doing it are inconsiderate.
Not directly relevant to the above point, but further to David Franklin's comment.
I agree generally (with the exception of some of those employed/given concessions). Expecting those in the role of customer to focus on that rather than their own enjoyment would be excessive.
- B ) Even if A) were wrong (which it isn't) I wasn't even saying it wasn't self sustaining, only that it might be.
- C ) Just to point out it was Lory who used the term inconsiderate.
Inappropriately of course given men have the stamina to do the classes and then outlast the ladies at freestyle .
* Weekender as in a gender balanced dance focused weekender with non discriminatory pricing where classes are a major part.
+ As in ceteris paribus, rather than literally.
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