It is sad that someone got themselves into such a sorry state. I feel sorry for the children, they have lost two parents by the sounds of it, the death of their dad and their mother signing away her rights to them for money. The only way I know of a mother losing parental responsibility is through adoption when she gives consent or through the courts when she does not and it is deemed to be in the child's best interest not to be cared for by her. This makes me think that perhaps Michael was not the biological father and he adopted the children. Who knows or cares, either way there are three little kids in a scary place.
No matter what anyone may think about Michael Jackson the man, he was a genius. I hope he has found some peace now.
Last edited by rubyred; 30th-June-2009 at 12:50 AM.
if you love the life you live then you'll get a lot more done
Of course no one is saying that. The point I was making was that the mother in the Jackson case is reported to have given up her parental rights to the children, in the UK as I understand it a mother will always have Parental Responsibility unless the child is adopted, it was a reference to the legal status not that father's can't look after children, which I know only too well is not true.
if you love the life you live then you'll get a lot more done
i think what happened is that Debbie Rowe claims she never had sex with MJ and the 2 eldest children, Prince and Paris, are not his.
They look like white kids to me - the boy has blond hair.
MJ paid he $4.5 million to sign away her parental rights. (I may be wrong on the figure)
The youngest boy, Prince II (Blanket) was born to a surrogate mother. I don't know if she had sex with MJ, or maybe she was artificially inseminated.
The whole thing is Off The Wall.
I agree with you Astro (first time for everything)
I saw a picture of his three kids in the paper yesterday and they bare no resemblance to him whatsoever...in fact, the oldest boy has white blonde straight hair and looks like a candidate for Hitler youth! The other two have no ethnic features whatsoever.
I suspect he has used a sperm donor in all three cases.
It's going to be fascinating to see those children grow up and develop their own opinions to their upbringing and parentage. I wonder if we or more importantly, they will ever know the truth.
Last edited by Astro; 30th-June-2009 at 05:06 PM.
The mother always has parental responsibility [PR] and pre December 2003 if the parents were married then the father will automatically have PR. What used to be known as custody is now called a Residence Order. This does not take away PR from any parent but determines who the child lives with and in turn who may have the ultimate say in making decisions. If the father does not have PR pre December 03 he can aquire it by applying for it through court, and if he gets a Residence Order then he gets PR if he didnt have it before. Similarly if a grandparent applies for a Residence Order the parents still have PR but the person with custody or a Residence Order can have the lion share of decision making in the child's life. Even a Care Order doesn't remove Parental Responsibility from either parent, but the Local Authority will have the major say in making decisions in the child's life.
Last edited by rubyred; 30th-June-2009 at 09:06 PM.
if you love the life you live then you'll get a lot more done
I fear desperately for the long-term mental health of those children. They have been rejected by their mothers and bereaved of the only father available to them. They may never know who they really are or where they belong.
He may have been a warm and affectionate father (no remarks about child molesting, please) but someone that strange must have passed on some equally strange values and behaviour to children in his care.
I hope someone down-to-earth and emotionally stable will take them on.
The newspaper said MJ's mother Katherine was the likeliest candidate.
But her husband - Joe Jackson, used to beat up all his kids, according to MJ.
Not sure if they are divorced??
Michael was such a happy smiley kid though when he was performing in Jackson 5, but being a child star and then famous all his life must have been too much.
Oh and btw, he wasn't the King, but he married the King's daughter - Lisa Marie.
It is King of Pop he's called after his album.
Last edited by Astro; 1st-July-2009 at 05:26 PM. Reason: King of Pop tag came before album tho' - I used to have the T shirt years ago.
He was such a cute, pretty boy, and a handsome man until he started the plastic surgery.
That must be why he spent time and money trying to make himself look like a white man. His father was a tyrant.
Plus it must also be why he wanted his kids to be white, and so couldn't use his own sperm.
He was a genius, but totally messed up emotionally.
btw. Elvis was part Cherokee, native American Indian
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