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    The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Its a nice idea in a non competitive recession proof market but how long can weekenders turn away paying punters ?. ie women

    It looks like a price war may develop but will this effect the gender balance

    I see weekenders now say men and mixed couples only , doesnt this imply more women ?

    Will it creep in with about 5% more then 10% more women at weekenders in 2010 etc ?

    Will we go back to a Franco era when the only way a man could get off the dance floor was feign a heart attack ?


    2010 interesting times

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post

    ... Franco era when the only way a man could get off the dance floor was feign a heart attack ?
    ...and women stood 3 deep round the edges, like praying mantis's

    let's hope not!
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    Cool Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    The other alternative is to get more women leading. I know that there are some Ceroc franchisees who consider this idea to be against the natural order of things, or some such tosh. But think about it....

    Maybe at some point in the future we'll be booking not as men or women but as dancers who mainly lead or follow. After all, we don't really have ladies over, we have follows over.

    Just a thought

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by StokeBloke View Post

    Maybe at some point in the future we'll be booking not as men or women but as dancers who mainly lead or follow. After all, we don't really have ladies over, we have follows over.

    Just a thought
    Actually, that's EXACTLY what Franco tried.

    And the arguments that followed were, how does one enforce it and would it mean she had to dance as a lead 'all' the time?

    If not, its open to abuse and we're back to square one
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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by StokeBloke View Post
    The other alternative is to get more women leading.
    Not the only alternative one thought. The best way would to be to get more men in to dancing and therefore in to weekenders.

    Classes are 9 times out of 10 women over. Solve this problem and you will solve the weekender issue

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by StokeBloke View Post
    The other alternative is to get more women leading.
    I don't want to dance with women!

    Call me old fashioned, but I like my leads to be men (I dance with Trouble when I'm desperate, but only if there are no blokes around and there's a tune I really want to dance to).

    Women have long fingernails, bumpy norks that get in the way, swishy, totally inappropriate non health and safety jewellery and usually reek of perfume. Yuk! Dunno how you men put up with us!

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Men should be offered cheaper tickets and single women should pay a lot more for their tickets.

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    Women have long fingernails, bumpy norks that get in the way, swishy, totally inappropriate non health and safety jewellery and usually reek of perfume. Yuk! Dunno how you men put up with us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    I also enjoy the feel of woman.

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    Women have long fingernails, bumpy norks that get in the way, swishy, totally inappropriate non health and safety jewellery and usually reek of perfume. Yuk! Dunno how you men put up with us!
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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Certain women, who are mediocre dancer's, like Lory, Lemoncake, Fletch,Batgirl, Caz all of the Scottish and Irish dancing ladies should pay more thanm us men. Just for the privelage of dancing with men, any men.

    Seems fair to me.

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    Cool Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    I don't want to dance with women!
    Nobody is suggesting you have to dance with women. But if there were more female leads dancing with female follows that would free up more men for.... well.... for you and your bumpy norks

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by StokeBloke View Post
    Nobody is suggesting you have to dance with women. But if there were more female leads dancing with female follows that would free up more men for.... well.... for you and your bumpy norks
    I know, lets make all the ugly women dance together!


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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    Will it creep in with about 5% more then 10% more women at weekenders in 2010 etc ?
    5% is a smaller difference than 205 women to 195 men.

    I'm fairly confident that a number of gender balanced or controlled weekenders have exceeded 10%. If so to creep in/end it, you'd have to go rather higher than that.


    It wouldn't be wrong for organisers to adopt a more suitable measure of balance.

    Targeting balanced numbers in (non star teacher) modern jive classes would do the job.


    The proposition:-

    Come to our weekender, where we really really need men, and you'll get lots of practice rotating and standing out in the classes.

    Killer sales pitch.

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by dave the scaffolder View Post
    Men should be offered cheaper tickets and single women should pay a lot more for their tickets.

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    You don't really help sweetie - I frequently have to queue for a favourite lead - BEHIND YOU!!!!

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by dave the scaffolder View Post
    Men should be offered cheaper tickets and single women should pay a lot more for their tickets.
    That's not a million miles from what Ceroc are doing for Splash in October. People who book as a couple can get a cheaper place than those who book on their own or in "unbalanced" groups.
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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by StokeBloke View Post

    Maybe at some point in the future we'll be booking not as men or women but as dancers who mainly lead or follow. After all, we don't really have ladies over, we have follows over.

    Just a thought

    Shotgun I'm a follower cause I'm pissed off with leading.

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Shotgun I'm a follower cause I'm pissed off with leading.
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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    I don't want to dance with women!

    Call me old fashioned, but I like my leads to be men (I dance with Trouble when I'm desperate, but only if there are no blokes around and there's a tune I really want to dance to).
    I'm with DT on this. I can and do lead as a taxi, and at class venues where there's a shortage of men (would rather lead in these situations than spend time sitting out). However, I wouldn't choose to do this as I don't get a buzz from leading (plus I'm more of a leader doing moves, rather than being musical and getting into the music/dance), plus then I'd miss out on all the fabulous dances with men.

    We're just going to have to recruit more men into dancing.

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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by emmylou25 View Post

    We're just going to have to recruit more men into dancing.
    Easier said than done my friend


    And apart from that, whoever meets anyone new nowadays, who doesn't dance?

    And if you say yes, at work. Would you really want your colleagues coming dancing with you?
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    Re: The end of Gender balance at weekenders ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lory View Post

    And if you say yes, at work. Would you really want your colleagues coming dancing with you?
    Good point!

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