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    Re: Freedom of speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post

    And thriving nations after independance ? have Ireland, New Zealand, Singapore and South Africa (to name a few) all imploded since leaving the British Empire then ?

    Sometimes you seem to resort to random flights of wild speculation based on limited knowledge.
    Zuma, who spent 10 years in prison as a political prisoner, has been elected in South Africa. He's backed by Nelson Mandela.

    The previous ANC president wasn't much good. Poverty levels are still the same as 15 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astro View Post
    Zuma, who spent 10 years in prison as a political prisoner, has been elected in South Africa. He's backed by Nelson Mandela.

    The previous ANC president wasn't much good. Poverty levels are still the same as 15 years ago.
    Yes, well; just as pop stars don't make very good rich people (see the thread about Michael Jackson's auction, visit the Country Music Museum in Nashville and see Elvis' gold Cadillac), populist agitators have a history of not making very good governments (Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Mugabe, Castro, almost any African country post 1960 has examples...)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    Yes, well; just as pop stars don't make very good rich people (see the thread about Michael Jackson's auction, visit the Country Music Museum in Nashville and see Elvis' gold Cadillac), populist agitators have a history of not making very good governments (Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Mugabe, Castro, almost any African country post 1960 has examples...)
    Populist agitators only rise to power because the country is failing and split.

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    Re: Freedom of speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdjiver View Post
    Populist agitators only rise to power because the country is failing and split.
    Well, I think you've slightly over-stated the case - I'm not sure 'always' is true. But otherwise - yes. But other people can rise to power when a nation is in trouble, and they don't always set about plundering it.

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    Re: Freedom of speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    populist agitators have a history of not making very good governments (Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Mugabe, Castro, almost any African country post 1960 has examples...)

    Lenin and Castro were/are good head of states IMO.

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