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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    i dont think it was your tango he was talking about
    Martin if the "i" is me, I have never critised Jay Jay, I think she is absolutely wonderful.

    If the "i" is someone else, come on spill the beans, I love a bubamatza.
    Last edited by ant; 10th-December-2008 at 09:55 PM.

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by ant View Post
    Martin if the "i" is me, I have never critised Jay Jay, I think she is absolutely wonderful.

    If the "i" is someone else, come on spill the beans, I love a bubamatza.
    Why thank you kind sir, you give me an 'evaluation on my technique' shall we say, and can only be regarded as constructive.........no beans to be spilled....I hope
    Last edited by Jay Jay; 10th-December-2008 at 11:12 PM.

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    Re: Dance Related Compliments...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gadget View Post
    Not always the lead's fault that it occurs, but it could be argued that it is always the lead's fault if it damages: if it is within their power to negate the yankage and they don't, then by omission, they are guilty of causing the damage.
    By the same argument isn't it therefore always the followers fault if the leader get's hurt by a yanking follower?

    For that matter, is it the followers fault if she gets hurt by a yanking leader if she was able to do something to protect herself but didn't for some reason?

    Honestly, I think the quoted argument is silly.

    I would have thought it impossible to do fancy footwork when you are being taken off-balance with every other arm lead. It may be possible if you completely disassociate the upper body and lower body, but then you can't be led (or lead) properly.
    I know people who do just that, and they certainly lead/follow exceptionally well. That said, they're also considerably more accomplished than the rest of us - so I think it's something of a superior skill in the grand scheme of things.

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Jay View Post
    .........no beans to be spilled....I hope
    Darling if I thought there was I wouldnt have asked.

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Jay View Post
    Why thank you kind sir, you give me an 'evaluation on my technique' shall we say, and can only be regarded as constructive.........no beans to be spilled....I hope
    You know i am just kidding with you jay jay
    I love dancing with you its always fun thats just Ant trying to get me into trouble

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    Re: Yanking

    Originally Posted by Martingold
    .....thats just Ant trying to get me into trouble
    Quite right too.

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by ant View Post
    Darling if I thought there was I wouldnt have asked.


    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    You know i am just kidding with you jay jay
    I love dancing with you its always fun thats just Ant trying to get me into trouble


    I am feeling the love today

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    Re: Dance Related Compliments...

    Quote Originally Posted by NZ Monkey View Post
    By the same argument isn't it therefore always the followers fault if the leader get's hurt by a yanking follower?

    For that matter, is it the followers fault if she gets hurt by a yanking leader if she was able to do something to protect herself but didn't for some reason?

    Honestly, I think the quoted argument is silly.
    If anyone(lead or follower) is aware of something they can do to avoid injury to either themselves or their partner, and injury occurs because they don't do it, then by not taking any action they are at fault.

    If I know my partner steps back too far and puts a tug at the end of their step, then I can compensate for it and avoid injury to either of us. If I don't do anything and someone complains of tugging and injury, then it's my fault - even if the cause was my partner's fault, the resulting injury was mine.

    I know people who do just that, and they certainly lead/follow exceptionally well. That said, they're also considerably more accomplished than the rest of us - so I think it's something of a superior skill in the grand scheme of things.
    I would question if they do fancy footwork while being taken off-balance by the arm lead: they may do fancy footwork (using isolation) while being led into something else {}, but I would be very surprised if the lead was yanking them around at the time.

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by Gadget View Post
    Yup; much, much easier. I used to shuffle around all over the place. If I was deluding my self, I would say lots of little syncopations to ease the flow of movement. But being truthful it was shuffling to make it easier.

    If you want to try to gain control over your shuffling and get it to look a bit better, then try WCS.
    If you want to smooth out your shuffling and gain control so you don't need to shuffle so much, then try some ATango.
    If you really can't be bothered about the looks of it but want your movements to flow better, then just shuffle... but try to do it in-time

    Personally, most of the reason I dislike WCS is that it for most folk it looks a lot like 'shuffling' and getting the follower to do all the work ie making the lead easier and lazier. I prefer the look of AT. Actually I prefer the look of MJ with AT influence; pure AT is a bit... "aloof" for my liking.
    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    They're off-axis. They're not off-balance.

    It's possible to fall in a balanced way
    The Dublin Shuffle?

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by Astro View Post
    The Dublin Shuffle?
    ?? Can you explain what you mean?

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Doyle View Post
    ?? Can you explain what you mean?
    2 steps forward, 3 steps back - after a skinful

    sorry bit of a non PC joke - but my Greatgrandparents were Irish.

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    thats just Ant trying to get me into trouble
    Let's hope scarface never finds out

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    Re: Yanking

    ooh

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor View Post
    Let's hope scarface never finds out
    Now your trying to do it to me.

    Have you seen how big Scarface is.

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by Astro View Post
    2 steps forward, 3 steps back - after a skinful

    sorry bit of a non PC joke - but my Greatgrandparents were Irish.
    That's cool, I'm Irish as well

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Doyle View Post
    That's cool, I'm Irish as well
    It was the great great grandparents - so it works out I am a 16th Irish, does it count?

    BTW you're not married to Mrs Doyle on Craggy Island are you?

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    Re: Yanking

    Quote Originally Posted by Astro View Post
    It was the great great grandparents - so it works out I am a 16th Irish, does it count?

    BTW you're not married to Mrs Doyle on Craggy Island are you?
    Of course it counts

    No I'm not married, but thanks for asking

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