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    I was driving in to work this morning and heard on the radio the Leona Lewis version of Snow Patrol’s Run. Now this is one of my favourite songs and I appreciate that Leona Lewis has a good voice but felt that she brought nothing better to the song and it was inferior as covers often are to the original. Another example I can give is Under the Bridge – Red Hot Chili Peppers, the dark tale of their drug addiction, brought out by All Saints all jolly and somehow missing the point. There are cover versions that improve the original one that I think is an example of this is Sinead O’Connor’s Nothing Compares with You, which IMHO is better than Princes version.

    As for remixes, just don’t get me started on them, take a decent song put a boing, boing beat on it and lose all the melody.

    Anyway rant over what others think, am I on my own here or do others agree?

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxine View Post
    Another example I can give is Under the Bridge – Red Hot Chili Peppers, the dark tale of their drug addiction, brought out by All Saints all jolly and somehow missing the point.
    I tried to request the original on the radio once and the DJ said "I didn't know the Chilis had covered it" . He then wouldn't believe me when I tried to set him straight!

    I don't listen to that station any more.

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    I'm never one for remixes, but some covers are very well done. In fact the best covers you usually find are done over and over again by different artistes..........you end up going so far that no-one remembers who the original was!!

    Take Elvis Presley for example........most of his hits were covers of originals, yet he is the one that is remembered for the songs.

    :This is where I wait for Jivejunkie to thunder into the room spewing indignation:

    As for the Leona Lewis cover of Run.......I don't like the new release much, but she originally did it in the Live Lounge on Radio 1 and it was beautiful. Now they've tinkered about with it to but on general release and it doesn't sound the same.

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxine View Post
    Another example I can give is Under the Bridge – Red Hot Chili Peppers, the dark tale of their drug addiction, brought out by All Saints all jolly and somehow missing the point. [/FONT]
    I SOOOO concur the song was surely in honour of Hilel and his dismal death , great choice for cheesy pop tarts to cover...not! (and to Gav, that, face-to-face, would have been a slapping situtation)


    Apparantly the Zutons wrote "Valerie" but I much prefer the Mark Ronson version (with Amy Winehouse singing?).

    I prefer Prince's "Kiss" to the Tom Jones one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post

    I prefer Prince's "Kiss" to the Tom Jones one.
    although when i heard the tom jones version i understood the words better

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Wholeheartedly agree with a few exceptions :

    - many of the tracks with Buena Vista Social Club doing the instrumentation and with the original artists singing - Clocks, Better Together, and She Will Be Loved.

    - Paul Anka turning rock and pop songs into swing, True, Smells Like Teen Spirit, The Lovecats, etc

    - can't help it, even with such heavyweight and wonderful singers such as Ella and Louis doing earlier versions, against my better judgement I love Will Young doing I Won't Dance

    How many people love dancing to Sarah Vaughan's Whatever Lola Wants re-mixed by the Gotan Project, have they heard the original, lovely singing but hardly any instrumentation.

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    I heard a great remix last night called Dilemma by Rob Murat it samples Doris Day's Perhaps song and is written as a mans reponse to the song. Click on the link if you want to hear it.

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    I have noticed that most people prefer the version of the song they heard first.

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    when someone adds something to a song, or puts thier own slant to it then i think it's valid. ie Whatever Lola wants - Gotan remix
    Fever - Adam Freeland
    or the Buena Vista remixes
    my pet hate is the pop version of "Here come the girls" it's annoying & is a pure cash in.

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    A lot of the Beatles early stuff were cover versions.

    In fact I heard an interview with Paul McCartney once where he said that he and John only started writing material because they got fed up with other bands performing the same songs as them.

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Quote Originally Posted by marcusj View Post


    - Paul Anka turning rock and pop songs into swing, Smells Like Teen Spirit,
    Even though I’ve danced to this, it still seems like sacrilege to me

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Bartholomew View Post
    I have noticed that most people prefer the version of the song they heard first.
    I agree with this for most songs but there are some cover versions that are so good such as the Tears for Fears' song Mad World which I always loved but loved the Gary Jules version even more. It wasn’t an inferior copy but he had managed to make it sound like a completely different song.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    A lot of the Beatles early stuff were cover versions.
    But don't you think the early stuff has not really stood the test of time

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Quote Originally Posted by DS87 View Post
    I heard a great remix last night called Dilemma by Rob Murat it samples Doris Day's Perhaps song and is written as a mans reponse to the song. Click on the link if you want to hear it.
    I have danced to this and really like it but again it is not just a straight forward cover he has changed the song. I have nothing against a good cover or a remix that does not have a boing, boing beat that drowns out the melody and you could then listen to 10 songs and not know what you’ve heard.
    Oh no I’m ranting again

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    Apparantly the Zutons wrote "Valerie" but I much prefer the Mark Ronson version (with Amy Winehouse singing?).
    Nah, the Zutons' original was much better .

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    I prefer Prince's "Kiss" to the Tom Jones one.
    Yes, DT said much the same thing.

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    Nah, the Zutons' original was much better .
    Yeah I prefer the Zutons but I do like the Amy Winehouse version just not as much

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    I'm generally against cover versions and remixes being used in MJ venues unless the new version significantly improves on the original for the purposes of MJ dancing, or is significantly different in style (e.g. "Valerie").

    One of the key reasons for this is that if I hear a track and think I know it, it can be something of a shock to discover thirty seconds in that this is actually some variety of remix and that therefore I don't know how long the breaks are, how long it is, where the quick and slow bits are, etc.

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    do's

    whatever lola wants - sara vaughan / gotan
    fever - sara vaughan /adam freeland
    material girl - cassandra beck
    word up - willis

    don'ts

    girls - sugababes
    mercy - duffy (dance remix)

    non dance

    shipbuilding - robert wyatt (ooooh)

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Funny you should ask that..

    Twirly and I were at a "jazz club" last night to see guitar virtuoso Antonio Forcione. He played a wonderful accoustic non-vocal version of Message In A Bottle by The Police. I didn't actually realise it was a cover until it got to the "I hope someone gets my.. I hope someone gets my.." bit and I though "that sounds a bit familiar !!

    Was truly superb

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Quote Originally Posted by locoman View Post
    do's

    whatever lola wants - sara vaughan / gotan
    fever - sara vaughan /adam freeland

    don'ts

    mercy - duffy (dance remix)


    shipbuilding - robert wyatt (ooooh)
    Shipbuilding - I think that Robert Wyatt wrote it and Elvis Costello covered it.

    Really like Whatever Lola wants and Fever both great tracks

    Mercy - Great song completely ruined by the remix - That is my ranting point

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    Funny you should ask that..

    Twirly and I were at a "jazz club" last night to see guitar virtuoso Antonio Forcione. He played a wonderful accoustic non-vocal version of Message In A Bottle by The Police. I didn't actually realise it was a cover until it got to the "I hope someone gets my.. I hope someone gets my.." bit and I though "that sounds a bit familiar !!

    Was truly superb

    Well for me that's what a cover version should be, not just an excuse to make money

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    Re: Cover Versions and Remixes

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxine View Post
    Even though I’ve danced to this, it still seems like sacrilege to me
    I agree. I think we have similar musical tastes

    I agree with this for most songs
    I find thats not generally true - I'll prefer the better version of the song no matter which one i heard first. I far prefer Faith No Mores "Easy" to Lionel Ritchies orginal. I even prefer Ewan McGregors voice in Moulin Rouge over Elton Johns...hmm not to mention practically every other song as sung by actors in Moulin Rouge is better than the originals yes, including Roxanne (good as The Police version was).

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