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    Nanny State? Or Evil Candles?

    I don't want to seem unsympathetic towards the poor guy who was badly burned in a Newcastle club in September, after he leaned against a balcony that had candles on it.

    The latest result of this though, as we found out yesterday while setting up in our Newcastle venue, is that local Health & Safety have banned the use of candles in public venues in the area. Including all bars, clubs, pubs and restaurants, as we were told by the kindly H&S officer. Now... not mixing candles with stupidly drunk clubbers should be a no-brainer, but no more candle-lit dinners in restaurants? That's getting a bit silly, surely?

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    Re: Nanny State? Or Evil Candles?

    silly - yes, surprising - no

    All councils have a KJR department now.

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    Re: Nanny State? Or Evil Candles?

    Or maybe the bods running Newcastle council also are behind the company who makes these...

    Battery Candles - Lazybone


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    It's all very well arguing the point, but there's no smoke without fire...

    I'll get my coat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ View Post
    It's all very well arguing the point, but there's no smoke without fire...

    I'll get my coat...
    Aaaaah, the sublime sniff of a snuffed candle.

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    Re: Nanny State? Or Evil Candles?

    ive been to a couple of venues dancing that have had candle disasters. One when a candle caught the paper table cloth alight.... they now use the pretend tea candle things that are really just alight that flickers. The other one had somebody throw a towel on the table that ended up on fire.. they no longer use candles either.

    They are dangerous so i can understand the ban... shame though cause you cant beat candle light..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ View Post
    It's all very well arguing the point, but there's no smoke without fire...

    I'll get my coat...
    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebeard View Post
    Aaaaah, the sublime sniff of a snuffed candle.
    I met a girl who made candle snuffers a few years ago. She's an old flame now though.

    OK, OK, I know puns like this really get on your wick, so I'll stop now.

    I'm off to a candlelit freestyle this Friday nr Guildford - I'll report back on Saturday if they still had them or not, and wax lyrical about the evening in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    ive been to a couple of venues dancing that have had candle disasters. One when a candle caught the paper table cloth alight.... they now use the pretend tea candle things that are really just alight that flickers. The other one had somebody throw a towel on the table that ended up on fire.. they no longer use candles either.
    I've had to stop dancing before to put out a towel that caught fire from a candle at an empty table. It's easy done. Having said that, in all the events I've been to where they've used candles (and there have been plenty!), I've only seen this type of thing happen maybe once or twice.

    I don't see the problem with having candles in restaurants etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    Or maybe the bods running Newcastle council also are behind the company who makes these...

    Battery Candles - Lazybone

    I think that rule may be coming to Oz as well - if it hasn't already. I was at a Thai restaurant a couple of weekends ago and I was pleasantly surprised to see that all of the candles on the table were lit (this isn't often the case in Sydney restaurants, as the staff don't bother to relight or replace candles once they go out on tables - unless you ask them too!). When I took a closer look at the candle I was surprised that it wasn't actually a candle, but something along the lines of the "battery candle" in the link above. It was pretty groovy in that it had a similar flicker that a real candle would - it wasn't obvious that it wasn't a real candle.

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    If we aren't careful, the goody goodies will stop candle lit dinnersand baths, even at home

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8211543.stm

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    Quote Originally Posted by straycat View Post
    local Health & Safety have banned the use of candles in public venues in the area. Including all bars, clubs, pubs and restaurants, as we were told by the kindly H&S officer. Now... not mixing candles with stupidly drunk clubbers should be a no-brainer, but no more candle-lit dinners in restaurants? That's getting a bit silly, surely?
    Not at all. They should also ban knives and forks too, they're far too dangerous for restaurant-goers to use. Plastic spoons should be perfectly acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    Not at all. They should also ban knives and forks too, they're far too dangerous for restaurant-goers to use. Plastic spoons should be perfectly acceptable.


    I'm not so sure about that myself. People might choke plastic spoons. What I propose is that restaurant-goers should be hand-fed by the staff, who will receive specialised training for the purpose. It's the only way to be truly safe.

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    Re: Nanny State? Or Evil Candles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    Not at all. They should also ban knives and forks too, they're far too dangerous for restaurant-goers to use. Plastic spoons should be perfectly acceptable.
    You fool! A trained man can do a lot of damage with a plastic spoon. Its a weapon of choice in many cultures, assuming there are no bananas or loganberries.
    Last edited by Dreadful Scathe; 21st-August-2009 at 09:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    ...assuming there are no bananas or loganberries.
    I always thought Loganberries were chiefly known for their escape abilities. Once the little sods start running, there's not much can stop them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by straycat View Post
    I always thought Loganberries were chiefly known for their escape abilities. Once the little sods start running, there's not much can stop them...

    but they don't start running until they are nearly 30 years old and want to meet Peter Ustinov. Is he even still alive ?

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    Re: Nanny State? Or Evil Candles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    You fool! A trained man can do a lot of damage with a plastic spoon. Its a weapon of choice in many cultures, assuming there are no bananas or loganberries.
    Apparently, the pigmy women of Mboto Gorge can be particularly dangerous with a sharpened Mango.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    Apparently, the pigmy women of Mboto Gorge can be particularly dangerous with a sharpened Mango.
    and when one of those pygmy women use it to go after one of the pygmy males.. they usually leg it.. and when they run they are pretty darned fast.. I mean , You should really see that Man Go.



    I'll get my mango proof rain coat..

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