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    Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    When I stumbled upon this story I just couldn't believe it, so thought I'de share it on here.

    Some people baffle me.

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Poi Boi View Post
    When I stumbled upon this story I just couldn't believe it, so thought I'de share it on here.

    Some people baffle me.
    as in the police who arrested her you mean? bizarre . what are the recipients going to be charged with exactly? the mind boggles. American society is strange though (and we're getting that way) nudity is starting to equal pornography for some reason If the police or anyone else look at pictures of naked people and automatically think "porn" , they have serious issues.

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Aye, how can someone be arrested for recieving something like that, especially if they didn't ask for it.

    Also, why was she arrested for sending the pics herself, I could understand it if someone else had taken them that it might cause a problem, or they were sent to the teachers etc, but this just baffles me.

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Strange, you never know what kids will do. I was helping a neighbour update her anti-virus one night and in the process we 'stumbled' over some images that had been captured from the webcam - her slightly less than teenage son had been exposing himself in front of the web-cam to his mates!!

    I suppose that in this world of celebrity sex tapes etc some people struggle to understand what it is meant by appropriate behaviour - mind you I've never had the discussion with my kids that they shouldn't capture their privates on the phone and text to their mates, maybe I need to carry out a phone inspection tonight

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Agente Secreto View Post
    Strange, you never know what kids will do. I was helping a neighbour update her anti-virus one night and in the process we 'stumbled' over some images that had been captured from the webcam - her slightly less than teenage son had been exposing himself in front of the web-cam to his mates!!
    luckily you didn't call the police - could have 'ad 'im done . But seriously, why are such things EVER brought to the polices attention, whether it comes up in the home or at school, all they need is a talking to.

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    as in the police who arrested her you mean? bizarre . what are the recipients going to be charged with exactly? the mind boggles. American society is strange though (and we're getting that way) nudity is starting to equal pornography for some reason If the police or anyone else look at pictures of naked people and automatically think "porn" , they have serious issues.

    you have been talking too much sense lately i cant rep you any more for a while lol

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    I don't understand? How can she be charged with child pornography when it's her own body? Does that mean she'll get charged for sexually assaulting a minor if she touches herself in her private parts?

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    I don't understand this either, how can the boy be arrested for receiving something he didn't ask for, in this he has shown no intent, if however he decided to pass it on to others then he could be charged with distributing child pornography. Technically the girl has been distributing child pornography which is a criminal offence, but nothing appears to have happened to her...
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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by rubyred View Post
    I don't understand this either, how can the boy be arrested for receiving something he didn't ask for, in this he has shown no intent, if however he decided to pass it on to others then he could be charged with distributing child pornography.
    But surely even that is bizarre - he knows where it originated from and that it is her choice to distribute it in the first place. Why must he be punished for that?

    Technically the girl has been distributing child pornography which is a criminal offence, but nothing appears to have happened to her...
    Its not pornography, its nudity - not even close to being the same (except sometimes in law)

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    But surely even that is bizarre - he knows where it originated from and that it is her choice to distribute it in the first place. Why must he be punished for that?



    Its not pornography, its nudity - not even close to being the same (except sometimes in law)
    First point because she is a minor, and even if she sent them of her own volition, a person wishing to distribute them is technically taking advantage of a vulnerable person.

    Child pornography does not have to show actions, nude pictures of children for sexual purposes,[ I add this because everyone has nude pictures of their children at some stages in their lives] would be classed as a child protection matter.

    I personally don't think the boy did anything wrong by receiving them, but in the eyes of the law if these pictures were distributed then I do believe that technically this is breaking the law. What I still don't understand is why the girl has got away without anything being investigated of her.
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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    Its not pornography, its nudity - not even close to being the same (except sometimes in law)
    it is a real shame that as soon as someone mentions female nudity of any sort it is imediatly seen as seedy
    If it was a male then there is nowhere near as much fuss made about it
    If they shw female nudity of any type in adverts even their behind then there is outrage but when they show a nude male behind it isnt seen as pornography that surely is sexual discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by rubyred View Post
    First point because she is a minor, and even if she sent them of her own volition, a person wishing to distribute them is technically taking advantage of a vulnerable person.
    children need protecting even if it is against themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by rubyred View Post
    Child pornography does not have to show actions, nude pictures of children for sexual purposes,[ I add this because everyone has nude pictures of their children at some stages in their lives] would be classed as a child protection matter.
    I really like the fact you have put those words in bold and i couldnt agree with you more

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Hopefully it will get sorted out after people have had a chance to catch their breath.

    Didn't that actress .... from Thunderbirds, and those Disney films ... Vanessa Hudgens. She texted nude pictures to her boyfriend - was it Zack Ephron?

    Only hers ended up all over the internet. Can't remember whether she was 18 at the time.

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Maybe it's the new generation's take on 'I'll show you mine if you show me yours.'

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    Maybe it's the new generation's take on 'I'll show you mine if you show me yours.'
    Technology is indeed enriching our lives in so many ways

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    I know!!

    Who would have imagined thirty years ago that you could store tens of thousands of pornographic images and thousands of pornographic films on something not much bigger than a packet of fags?

    So I'm told.

    I don't actually have an iPod.

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by rubyred View Post
    Child pornography does not have to show actions, nude pictures of children for sexual purposes,[ I add this because everyone has nude pictures of their children at some stages in their lives] would be classed as a child protection matter.

    But how can you tell that someone has pics for "sexual purposes" ? thats a thought crime surely. Even if the person who has a nude pic is a convicted paedophile, how can you tell if he is sexually interested in a particular image? Is it "he must be, because of his past"?

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    But how can you tell that someone has pics for "sexual purposes" ? thats a thought crime surely. Even if the person who has a nude pic is a convicted paedophile, how can you tell if he is sexually interested in a particular image? Is it "he must be, because of his past"?

    That's the job of the police who have specialist units such as the Family Support Unit to investigate whether films, pictures etc of children are being used for sexual purposes. When the police have done their enquiries their evidence will be submitted to the Crime Prosecution Service to determine and decide whether there is a case to take to court.
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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by Cruella View Post
    I don't understand? How can she be charged with child pornography when it's her own body? Does that mean she'll get charged for sexually assaulting a minor if she touches herself in her private parts?
    Where does this end ? any minor can post nude photos of themselves on the internet as long as they have given 'consent'

    Im sure an investigation of the facts will reveal all

    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    it is a real shame that as soon as someone mentions female nudity of any sort it is imediatly seen as seedy

    Male streekers get a far worse time then female ones , its swings and round abouts

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    There are some more details here:
    Girl charged with sending nude photos via cell phone | newarkadvocate.com | The Newark Advocate

    Basically, she's being charged with:

    She pleaded deny to both charges: illegal use of a minor in nudity-oriented material, a second-degree felony; and possession of criminal tools, a fifth-degree felony.
    Which, yes, is just weird.

    Quote Originally Posted by rubyred View Post
    First point because she is a minor, and even if she sent them of her own volition, a person wishing to distribute them is technically taking advantage of a vulnerable person.
    Yes, but, she's the only one being charged with a crime. Are you saying she's guilty of taking advantage of herself? Should she be given counselling for being a victim of a sexual crime? After being charged for being the perpetrator of the crime?

    Maybe she could then sue herself for compensation, after getting out of prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by rubyred View Post
    . What I still don't understand is why the girl has got away without anything being investigated of her.
    She hasn't - she's been charged.

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    Re: Girl held for texting nude photos to classmates

    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    There are some more details here:
    Girl charged with sending nude photos via cell phone | newarkadvocate.com | The Newark Advocate

    Basically, she's being charged with:



    Which, yes, is just weird.


    Yes, but, she's the only one being charged with a crime. Are you saying she's guilty of taking advantage of herself? Should she be given counselling for being a victim of a sexual crime? After being charged for being the perpetrator of the crime?

    Maybe she could then sue herself for compensation, after getting out of prison?


    She hasn't - she's been charged.

    Thanks for clearing that up, because when I googled the story, [coudn't find it on Poi Boi's link only got the front page of the paper 'Metro'] it said that she hadn't been charged.

    The whole thing sounds sad to me that a young girl would put herself in such a vulnerable posititon, and I think she at the very least needs some self protection advice/work undertaking with her to make sure she understands what a potentially dangerous position she has placed herself in, and how easy it would be for others to take advantage of her.
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