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    Re: Gary Glitter - does he deserve it

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTramp View Post
    And for people who steal things, we remove their hands. And for people who commit murder, we kill them.

    Sounds like a plan to me....
    Welcome to the Caliphate....



    Didn't Mohammed take a 9 year old girl when he was 53......?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twirly View Post
    If you meant that they have the same potential to commit abuse as men, that is true. But it's as useful as saying that all men are potential rapists, just because they have the equipment!
    Surely thats the point - what the media seems to push is that "all men are potential paedophiles" and even if statistically it IS mostly men, it IS sometimes woman. Perhaps a realisation that the problem is not any worse than most other crimes, and, if no special hysteria was reserved for this crime, the country would be a happier place. If you read the Daily Mail you'd get the impression that paedophiles were suddenly created as soon as the internet became popular, just like Sarumans Orcs in Lord of the Rings.

    As for teachers and school employees avoiding even getting too close to pupils - i can't see how bringing up children to socially, distance themselves from others is going to be good for society ! In the late 90's we turned many schools into massively fenced fortresses after the Dunblane massacre, now we've added "trust no one ever" regardless of which side of the school fence you are on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee
    Ob. in these positions they need police checks before commencing employment. This does not filter out the ones that have not yet offended.
    It does now - "soft data" has been added so that even a hint of an accusation from a pupil/child that doesn't like you, can be enough to ensure you never work again.

    How many do it as an impulse thing? Maybe working in these professions close to children is more likely to bring it out in these people. Just a thought.
    Sounds like an argument similar to "violent computer games make people violent" to me People are what they are. Although I see where you are going with this - yes our children would be safer if we put everyone in solitary confinement
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    Quote Originally Posted by JiveLad View Post

    Didn't Mohammed take a 9 year old girl when he was 53......?
    I guess it depends on culture and laws of the country as to being a ped or not. Depends where the ped age starts.

    Looks like GG is going to USA, according to Keefy on the jokes thread "Gary Glitter says he doesn't want to come back to the UK, he wants to go to Florida and Tampa with the kids."

    It has made me wonder though... I teach kids to dance, and will continue to do so.

    As a baseball coach, I got asked to teach little league, as an adult educator, I have also been asked to teach kids.... I said no to both, coz I would prefer to teach adults.
    However, having read this thread, it makes me wonder why anyone would now teach kids... taken from a YouTube clip posted on this thread "Everyman is innocent until speculated guilty" - Reminds me of Sting... "Don't stand so close to me"

    I will not stop teaching kids to dance, and I defend my right to do so...

    My Mum and Dad were school teachers, I wonder, in the current climate, if they would do that again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    yes our children would be safer if we put everyone in solitary confinement

    Has been tried, putting kids in solitary confinement, but for some reason he was not understood, when he put his kids in a little house, under the house...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astro View Post
    That guy who murdered those girls at Soham was a school caretaker.
    Yes, but at a different school. He knew the girls because his girlfriend, Maxine Carr worked at their school. He could just as easily been a Quikfit fitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astro View Post
    In England there used to be a tradition where fathers "broke in" their daughters and it was not against the law.
    Where DO you get this crap from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    Has been tried, putting kids in solitary confinement, but for some reason he was not understood, when he put his kids in a little house, under the house...
    No, not kids in solitary confinement... EVERYONE (say it like Gary Oldman in Leon)

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    Where DO you get this crap from?

    I get the impression Astro tries one random substance a day - sometimes it has no effect, other times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    I get the impression Astro tries one random substance a day - sometimes it has no effect, other times...

    As long as it has an "alternative medicine" label on it... it is all good... and not a drug

    I was thinking of labeling my wine bottle "alternative stress relief".

    As to background reading on breaking in your child... you could try..
    "Family, sex and marriage in England 1500 - 1800 : Lawrence Stone : Harper and Row 1977 NY"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTramp View Post
    And for people who steal things, we remove their hands. And for people who commit murder, we kill them.

    Sounds like a plan to me....
    Sounds like a plan to me also.

    Why do you think this country is going to pot. Because we have no control over any of our criminals, none at all. Criminals have nothing to fear apart from a nice comfy cell, three meals a day and a bed at night. They even get films, tv's, visits, blah blah blah.

    Im in favour of corporal punishment returning and yes it would be difficult but when will we realise that we can not continue as we are.

    Pedos' are a different breed in my eyes though. Different in that they are always conning and tricking their way into kids pants. They will do anything to get them and are NOT curable.

    So yes Trampy, it does sound like a plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    Why do you think this country is going to pot.
    Errr... it's not?

    Why do you think it is going to pot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Errr... it's not?

    Why do you think it is going to pot?
    because the crime rate figures are going up, the police are tyring to hide it and we are turning into the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Errr... it's not?

    Why do you think it is going to pot?
    Because we all sit and watch Police camera action video (or what ever its called) see the guy driving through 12 red traffic lights and hitting four other cars and just avoid killing 12 other people. Its ends with

    This little toe rag got a ยฃ100 fine and 10 hours community service

    I do like the USA version where they try to shoot them if the can or ram them of the road

    Re Glitter, the rule of law should apply


    Quote Originally Posted by Twirly View Post
    Having said that, Beo and I were staying with friends in Bristol at the weekend. We were sat outside a pub having Sunday lunch with my friend's two sons aged 2 and 5, who were running riot all over the garden/play area, and having a great time, along with several other children. Everyone in the garden was keeping an eye out for the kids, and there was a chap keeping an eye on the boys whilst he was helping his daughter play. Later, Beo picked her up when she fell over as she joined in a game with the boys. It was a great atmosphere. I wonder how knowing this guy was potentially a neighbour would affect that.
    Only impact I can see is it would allow fellow diners more peace when they eat ? ie Kids would be sitting at the table not running riot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    because the crime rate figures are going up
    Nope.

    Violent crime has been falling, both in recorded crime and in crime survey data.

    For example:
    - BBC NEWS | UK | Recorded crime figures show fall
    - BBC NEWS | UK | In graphics: Crime figures 2007/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    the police are tyring to hide it and we are turning into the USA.
    You're turning into an old-style Stewart38.

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    Re: Gary Glitter - does he deserve it

    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Nope.

    Violent crime has been falling, both in recorded crime and in crime survey data.

    For example:
    - BBC NEWS | UK | Recorded crime figures show fall
    - BBC NEWS | UK | In graphics: Crime figures 2007/08


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    DJ im surprised at you. Dont tell me you actually believe that bollox which is what it is. These bloody surveys are all absolute tosh and thats putting it mildly. I mean for goodness sakes...

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    Re: Gary Glitter - does he deserve it

    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Nope.

    Violent crime has been falling, both in recorded crime and in crime survey data.

    For example:
    - BBC NEWS | UK | Recorded crime figures show fall
    - BBC NEWS | UK | In graphics: Crime figures 2007/08


    You're turning into an old-style Stewart38.

    No in fact on this one , i think I've agreed on every post you made in this thread, i better go back and check

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    DJ im surprised at you. Dont tell me you actually believe that bollox which is what it is. These bloody surveys are all absolute tosh and thats putting it mildly. I mean for goodness sakes...
    You said, "the crime figures are going up".

    But they're not. They're going down.

    I posted two links to prove that.

    You then rubbish the figures because they don't agree with your opinion.

    Does the phrase "shifting goalposts" ring a bell?

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    No in fact on this one , i think I've agreed on every post you made in this thread, i better go back and check
    Hence "old-style" - I'm thinking of some of the stuff you posted in your Daily Mail days

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
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    Does the phrase "shifting goalposts" ring a bell?

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    no im not shifting the goalposts. Im just saying that most people understand how surveys work and you being a clever man also understand that these are not worth the paper they are written on. These surveys are done to make everything look great when in reality its all about figures and paperwork. The reason i know this is becuase i know a number of police officers who instead of concentrating on crime and beating it, they are told to concentrate on showing arrests and given targets to get these up. Full stop. Thats all they are looking for. They will arrest anybody if they can get away with it just to increase the look of what a great job the british police are doing.

    All as i said, complete tosh. Now if you want to believe these surveys, you go ahead but i dont. I believe this country has a serious problem with crime currently and its getting worse not better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post


    Hence "old-style" - I'm thinking of some of the stuff you posted in your Daily Mail days
    Interesting to see the worse crime of the 20th century. The current century must be Luton being deducted 30 pints

    Deltoid ยป The worst crime of the 20th century. Whodunnit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    Now if you want to believe these surveys, you go ahead
    I didn't say I believed them. I just want to know where you get "the crime figures are going up" from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    I believe this country has a serious problem with crime currently and its getting worse not better.
    Possibly - got any figures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    I didn't say I believed them. I just want to know where you get "the crime figures are going up" from?


    Possibly - got any figures?
    Maybe the fear is going up ?

    Bit like Crime Watch that use to end with the stats , you know you have seen a lot of violent crime on here but the chances of being a victim is extremely remote.

    The stratching your hearing at your door is only your cat, so dont have nightmares

    It then said ps you dont have a cat do you ? nite nite

    update re Glitter

    Glitter in limbo: Rejected by Vietnam, Thailand and Hong Kong ... now pop pervert will have to face British justice | Mail Online

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