Just returned from a night in Nantwich. Had some good dances and it was a pretty good night but on the way home i got thinking (scary for me :sorry )
What are guys there for.
A person once told me that the job of the man is to make the lady look good.
I forget who said that but I do believe it to some extent. I also believe that the scope is there for the man to add his own spins/style/footwork etc.
I was looking through my favourite moves (sad it may be!) and i noticed that there are a lot of moves that i use were i spin or attempt to do something stylish which usually fails.
I was wondering if anyone agrees with this idea that the man is there just to make the lady look good. IF SO how??
Ok, a broad question it may be but what can a guy do to make the lady look good.
I use simple things like the travelling R hand return with a block then double spinning the lady fast which is good but are there particular moves - do these moves exist ??
I guess i have to add that the lady who is dancing would have to be of a good standard however you classify that, as beginners are just learning the moves.
Do any ladies have moves they wish the guys would do
This is only part of the truth. The job of the guy is to make the lady feel good. This will often make her look good, but the two are not the same.Originally posted by Paul F
What are guys there for?
A person once told me that the job of the man is to make the lady look good.
There is no such thing as a particular move which will achieve what you want to achieve.
As with life, abandon all such formulaic approaches. Learn instead to connect with your partner.
Chris.
I once heard it described as the man is the frame and the lady is the picture. That is only one way to dance.
IMO it is a transaction with your partner at the time. Often I am dancing to teach, sometimes to impress partner, occasionally to impress spectators with her, rarely to impress spectators as a partnership. 95% of the time I am trying to help partner enjoy herself, the other 5% I am in selfish mode, trying out new moves or ideas. If we are lucky partner enjoys that too.
A subject for a multi-option poll?
Maybe it would be helpful to think about what is really important on the dance floor. Moves aren't - at least not in isolation.Originally posted by Paul F
I guess i have to add that the lady who is dancing would have to be of a good standard however you classify that, as beginners are just learning the moves.
A beginner girl needs to feel good on the dance floor at least as much, often more so, than a girl that's been dancing for years. Care is required, but it's just as achievable.
What is "good"? You have to answer that for yourself. The answer can be very different, depending on the circumstances.
Chris
I couldn't agree more! but then I would, wouldn't I!Originally posted by ChrisA
The job of the guy is to make the lady feel good.
Chris.
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Originally posted by bigdjiver
I once heard it described as the man is the frame and the lady is the picture. That is only one way to dance.
I agree with that and a corollary to this would be that the frame has to be solid to avoid the picture falling out
What I mean by this is that the mans signals must be clear, When I first started dancing it took me a while to learn this that we have a harder job on our hands.
That may well be true sometimes for some people but you're trying to analyze purpose where there may not be any - sometimes people just dance!Originally posted by Paul F
A person once told me that the job of the man is to make the lady look good.
Of course, we're only talking about dancing here othewise my humble answer would be 'nothing'
In my mind there are no men or women in dancing. There are leaders and followers.
The whole thing is a relationship. It's not an equal one, but there also isn't a superior or inferior position. You both have a job to do. And those jobs are different, but the objective is the same. And, when social dancing, that is to enjoy yourself and provide enjoyment or pleasure to your partner, leader or follower.
You get that pleasure differently in different situations. When you're leading a beginner they get pleasure from getting moves right and having a feeling of making progress and you are rewarded by their gratitude and the pleasure of helping people improve. When you lead an experienced dancer you're enjoying the togetherness, the musicality, etc.
When you're following you're enjoying getting it right, possibly learning new stuff. You're enjoying the music, the relationship, etc.
I think that ONLY when you're being watched, and judged in some way, do you need to worry about who's looking good - and then it needs to be both of you. The leader needs to give the follower the opportunity to look good but they've got to look good too. The follower isn't just a puppet operated by a barely seen puppeteer in all black with a black mask doing moves against a black screen so only the follower can be seen. They're out there too and they need to look good. And, IMHO, to do that you really do need to GLITTER
This theory could explain the all black look. They've heard the 'job of the man is to make the lady look good' line and slavishly believed it. And in choosing to do so some men have demoted consideration of their own look to 2nd place. They seem to think they need to just make the follower look good while they remain an anonymous and barely noticed black garbed clone in the background
Get out there and sparkle guys, put some rips in those black shirts and show off your 6-packs, wear colourful clothes and have your own identity!
But, whatever you do, please don't upstage me
Accepted! Competition/dancing for show is very different. And that's the last I'll say about the glitter issue, before I get lynched...Originally posted by Andy McGregor
I think that ONLY when you're being watched, and judged in some way, do you need to worry about who's looking good - and then it needs to be both of you. The leader needs to give the follower the opportunity to look good but they've got to look good too. The follower isn't just a puppet operated by a barely seen puppeteer in all black with a black mask doing moves against a black screen so only the follower can be seen. They're out there too and they need to look good. And, IMHO, to do that you really do need to GLITTER
I enjoyed reading that post - it was funny!
Rachel
I dance with a lot of girls, excuse me, followers, that go for the black look, and they usually look terrific. Dead sexy, look great when they move, and feel nice close up, cos the material is usually smooth.Originally posted by Andy McGregor
(The leaders are) out there too and they need to look good. And, IMHO, to do that you really do need to GLITTER
This theory could explain the all black look. They've heard the 'job of the man is to make the lady look good' line and slavishly believed it. And in choosing to do so some men have demoted consideration of their own look to 2nd place. They seem to think they need to just make the follower look good while they remain an anonymous and barely noticed black garbed clone in the background
I can see them fine, too. Even from the other side of a relatively dark dance floor. But I am very fortunate still to have good eyesight. Maybe my views will change as I get older...
Chris
Everyone has their *favourite* selection, but for me there are moves I wish a guy WOULDN'T do that are more important to me. I like a man who is fun and quite passionate on the floor; a cheeky eye-to-eye contact is important.Originally posted by Paul F
Do any ladies have moves they wish the guys would do
You are good at surprising; by that I mean, a lot of men I can predict what is coming, whereas with you I can't, but it still flows well regardless.
I think a man's job on the floor is to look sexy/manly; kind of chest-out, stand-like-a-man-look-good look-bold etc. That's what I like to see anyway. That way he makes his partner look good as you look good together, people want to look like you etc.
Px
Not even 1 sequin? Tried my shirt on for the first time at home last nightOriginally posted by Rachel
... And that's the last I'll say about the glitter issue, before I get lynched...
I enjoyed reading that post - it was funny!
RachelBefore I knew I was chatting myself up
Still got turned down
Yes, because it's not out of character for you to be caught sitting shirtless of an eveningOriginally posted by Boomer
Tried my shirt on for the first time at home last night
What is a man for? Hmm...
He is there to:
sort the car for winter (check oil, antifreeze, tyres)
:kiss the back of your neck
: lift heavy objects
: rub your feet:
:pick you up from a girlie night out and make sure you don't get too ill in the middle of the night thereafter
:take along to occassions that need a "partner" so you don't come across as Bridget Jones sad singleton
: Buy you flowers
: send you emails and texts calling you "sweatpea" "Princess" or "gorgeous"
: hug you after a bad day at work
: to tell you he likes you with curves and to stop dieting
Oh, sorry...did I miss the point of this thread?
Buying the drinks?
No, don't think soOriginally posted by Forte
Oh, sorry...did I miss the point of this thread?
1) To tell you your dinner tastes nice, even when it doesn't
2) To eat all the chocolates in the tin that you don't like
and leave the ones you do
3) To get the car into the small parking space
4) To hold hands with on a cold day
5) To squeeze up to when the scarey bit comes in the film
6) To go check what *the noise* was you heard in the night
7) To hide behind when you get shy
8) To tell all your inner most secrets to
9) To regret telling all your inner most secrets to!
I've often tried this, but it doesn't seem to work - Wendy still comes up with her own opinion on what I've cooked. Am I doing something wrong?Originally posted by Pammy
1) To tell you your dinner tastes nice, even when it doesn't
Originally posted by Pammy
2) To eat all the chocolates in the tin that you don't like and leave the ones you do
How about -
To know how a your feeling even when you dont tell him !!
grrrr!!
On the point of the thread i just wondered if there is anything i can do to accentuate the gracefulness of the lady.
Could it be that i just have to give the lady room to 'style' or whatever it is called?
a) What you mean is to know when you're annoyed and why you're annoyed when we say we're not annoyed!Originally posted by Paul F
a) To know how a your feeling even when you dont tell him !!
b) On the point of the thread i just wondered if there is anything i can do to accentuate the gracefulness of the lady.
and b) don't know, haven't danced with you for sooooo long
Silly! You are a man so the answer to that is always yes!Originally posted by Graham
. Am I doing something wrong?
:
unless you arer dancing with me..because that is something you do very well...Thank you!
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