I don't mind at all, as long as I don't get Newbies and Incompetents all night.
Mind you, some Newbies are a pleasure. They may not know many moves, but they haven't had time to learn any bad habits. As for The Incompetents, they may change into absolute stars and might actually choose to dance with me in years to come.
Daisy
(An Accommodating Little FLower)
I totally agree with all of this (apart from the unbidden images - thank you DTS! ).
I have had trouble in the past getting good newbies to understand the fewer good moves rather than more bad moves idea.
However I will happily dance with a guy who has 1 or 2 moves, if he has (even the beginnings of) musicality, gentlemanly behaviour, and a bit of eye contact. ( A smile never hurt either )
Whitetiger
I would rather dance with someone who is new but friendly and pleasant, than someone who is a good dancer but makes no effort to connect with you.
I personally find that complicated moves do not necessarily make a great dance; my favourite dances are with the guys I feel I have connected with, who make eye contact and most importantly smile.
I have only ever refused a dance a couple of times and that was nothing to do with the dance but personal hygiene
Hey All
Thanks for the feedback to this post.
As always DTS was as profound as ever! :respek:
I appreciate the comments about taking it easy and just letting it happen. Funny though how those who are blessed are often the ones saying that it doesnt matter . How many times have you heard someone who is minted say that money isnt important?
Same for me with the dancing thing. DTS is a great dancer and has to fight the ladies off with a stick. I guess I would just like to understand how the 'journey' to get to that level happened. I love dancing but have to say it has been one of the hardest things I have ever taken on (for many reasons (technical, social, schedule etc) and I find it as frustrating as hell that some nights my mind is like a goldfish (oh no not another first move!) then others it just clicks and it feels great. Have other guys been through this too? How did you get past that block and how long did it take.
In the meantime I just keep showering, dancing, smiling, changing my shirt and having fun. Hopefully the ladies I dance with will too. (have fun that is)
Peace
MarkO
Marko my lover, thanks for the comments indeed. Dancing is a journey it takes a bit of time to get ok at it, but on the journey revel in the process, make it a pleasant journey, knowing that on the way knock backs will occur.
It is better to relax and enjoy the journey than be all stressed and anxious.
Stressed and anxious will show in your dancing. Relaxed and happy will shine thro a lot better.
I describe the dancing journey as climbing stairs.
Up a bit then level out to consolidate what you have learned, always get the basics right because it all stems from the basics, nail the basics as an absolute must. When the basics are nailed then, and only then, move up a bit more.
DTS XX XX
I would say that such a person could be considered a 'good' dancer - technique, musical interpretation, blah, blah - but would not be a 'good' partner.
Is it just me for whom the words 'DTS' and 'stick' give me a mental image of Captain Caveman dragging women around by their hair?
Stick with it Marko. I started 3.5 years ago and I still remember well the times when everything I led from a L/R hold was a first move and everything R/R was a yo-yo. I was certain the followers were bored stiff with that limited repertoire, I certainly was, but gradually you pick up more variety and you'll add and drop things to your repertoire as you go along. And no matter how experienced, comfortable and 'good' you become you *never* feel like you have enough variety in your moves toolbox
I don't think there's a secret fast track to getting past it. For sure, you could take many private lessons, workshops, etc and attend as many freestyles as possible but chances are you'll remain frustrated as there's only so much you can take in at a time. If my personal experience is anything to go by you will also find that your dancing compatibility with people changes over time.
Hi
When I started dancing eight years ago, I found everything so difficult, I couldn't remember moves and I was a totally mess with TWO left feet.
I found that the only weay to learn for me was to go to loads of different classes around my neck of the woods. I also decided to go to a some of the beginners workshops, it was great to learn half the beginners moves in a four hour session. The workshops helped my confidence a great deal.
I find even now that certain moves that I have learnt are just not me, they get discarded, every now and again I learn a new move which I just know is made for me, its up to you to then make that move yours in what ever way you feel comfortable.
Good luck and keep at it, it has made me a very happy person over the years
Dancing to me is a lottery.. You can have the most fantastic dance with a beginner or a stuttering, wrestling one with an Advanced dancer... It never goes right all the time but when it does it feels fantastic!!
I imagine it's the same for the Ladies....
Oh yes, yes, yes. It isnt just me then What is it about those 2 moves that keep happening in any dance I do! Please god banish them from my mind .
I like the 'stairs' analogy. I think I am on a fairly large landing on the first floor, stumbling around in the dark looking for the next flight up.
I would never refuse a Lady, but I would refuse someone who has proved they are not a Lady... do your rules cover that?
[based on previous form, girl who is not ladylike]
Yes some females are pervs, yankers, and stuff...
Join every other guy on the forum
I do not think you are alone, in fact , I do not think any guy has not had this same experience.
Most nights ok, some nights... still working on it
Actually I quite like a little bit of move repetition, it lets me play with styling, and footwork, (eurgh - will I ever get the triple step? ) and if you will let me - with steals and and plays on spins
E.g. I am not fond of the catapult (particularly if i am having a bad night, and the last 3 leads have led it every 2nd move ! )
However, if you lead me into a catapult, I now have a couple of steals which might cheer you up [on the couple of patient leads on whom I have practiced I haven't had any complaints ]
Cheers Whitetiger
it is important to some, you just need to find and remember the ones who say its dosen't matter and meen it.
I have recenly had some feed back from several friends of mine regarding some one I use to dance quite a lot with, it appears he makes them feel inferior cos he seems to like to walk or talk them trough moves
Yes DTS does have to beat the ladies of with a stick and I for one would be very upset if at the end of the evining I looked around and realised i'd missed him, but its cos hes fun, up beat, interesting....and if you get it wromg he dosen't mind.
Every one knows I don't do lessons,
I just hate that didn't you get it right attitude, don't you know the wiggggly wogggly move then shall I walk you through it, or when you come off the floor the guy saying things like .....you know when I step back on my right then you .......blarrr blarrr blarrr load of bo!!ocks, so don't be a
DTS is not like this thats why he will always have loads of lovely ladies queing for him and I will be first in the que.:
so please marko even when you have been dancing for some years and think you know what your doing please don't walk or talk me trought moves i'm not the best, neaver will be, but like DTS we have fun.
oooooooiyyyy you these are my lines
OK - here is a question for the guys. I danced with a guy last night after the int class who was clearly quite nervous. He got jumbled up in the moves we'd just learned so I said 'lead anything'. I smiled a lot, I threw in a few wiggles and I think by the end of the dance he was a bit more relaxed.
Should I start asking him to dance every so often in the hope that he gets more relaxed dancing with me?
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