The Olympics - does China have no sense of shame

[Agente Secreto]

Browsing after reading the thread about temporary breast implants I came across the following - clearly the Olympic Games organisers have a different view of right and wrong than I do.

Ceremony sham - Little girl 'too ugly' to take part in Olympic showpiece | Metro.co.uk

Pete

[Ronde!]

Browsing after reading the thread about temporary breast implants I came across the following - clearly the Olympic Games organisers have a different view of right and wrong than I do.

Ceremony sham - Little girl 'too ugly' to take part in Olympic showpiece | Metro.co.uk

Pete

But, um, miming happens all the time in live entertainment, even in Australia and the USA.

Did you REALLY think that sexy blonde starlet [insert name here] could actually *sing*???

LoL

[David Bailey]

Browsing after reading the thread about temporary breast implants I came across the following - clearly the Olympic Games organisers have a different view of right and wrong than I do.

Ceremony sham - Little girl 'too ugly' to take part in Olympic showpiece | Metro.co.uk

Pete

Well, blimey, compared to all the other thing's China's done, that's pretty low down the list of Evil Acts Of The Chinese Government. I doubt it'd make the top 1,000, really.

We're talking about a communist dictatorship, which has actively engaged in widespread abuses of human rights, ethnic cleansing, constant restrictions on basic civil liberties, etc etc.

Having a mimed performance, on that scale? Not really registering on the Evilometer.

[philsmove]

I was really impressed with aerial shots of the fireworks
But they also tuned out to be too good to be true
BBC NEWS | The Reporters | James Reynolds' China

[Double Trouble]

Personally, I think the girl who actually sung the song is much prettier than the one they chose...not that, that is relevant of course.

[Gav]

Some people never learn do they? Anyone with any sense must've realised that it's better to do the best they can honestly, rather than do whatever it takes to look like the best and get caught out later.

Having said that, I don't care if any of it was faked. If no-one had found out, could I tell? No. Was it still entertaining? Yes.

[Billi Wiz]

I thought it summed it up when everyone at my work wouldn't let me watch the news of Russia and Georgia killing each other because some spotty teenager was coming last in the synchronised falling...

Dodgy rulers use Circuses to distract simple people from Reality.. It's when everyone demands we join in that it takes the biscuit!

[Dreadful Scathe]

We're talking about a communist dictatorship,

is it ? communism AND a dictatorship ?

I agree with the sentiments on your evil scale, but you can't just dismiss this either - it shows that they will do anything to present what they want to present and not the truth - how can anyone ever trust China ?

[stewart38]

Personally, I think the girl who actually sung the song is much prettier than the one they chose...not that, that is relevant of course.

Of course it’s relevant and here is the irony

We are outraged that a girl with a good voice but who was ugly (according to the media, relatively anyway) was not allowed to sing in front of a billion + people. We are also angry that a pretty girl with a poorer voice was (Note poorer, I understand it was still a good voice). Decisions were made at the last minute

Why?

Because being ugly shouldn’t matter if we have a good voice

Of course being pretty shouldn’t matter but of course it does (she will get on doesn’t matter if she gets heart broken etc)

One girl was going to be heart broken so the Chinese did the next best thing allow one to sing the other to pose

I guess if the girl who sang hadn’t been pretty but been a ugly girl in a wheel chair miming the outrage would be a lot less, it’s the fact she is ‘pretty’ that has caused the scandal. I say both girls had the hearts saved

To be fair I think London 2012 will have an fat ugly middle aged bloke who cant sing to cover all options, watch this space

[Dreadful Scathe]

One girl was going to be heart broken so the Chinese did the next best thing allow one to sing the other to pose

Thats nonsense - if they went with the talented one in the first place there would be no other child involved.

[Mini Mac]

It makes me so angry that perfection is what everyone wants in the media.

You can't be carrying a bit of weight, or have a bit of cellulite or a chip in the tooth.

you have to have shiny hair, bright white dazzling teeth, perfect features. You have to look...too good to be true, hence the fact so many celebrities are airbrushed,

Recently i watched a program in which Aleesha Dixon, winner of Strictly Come Dancing 2008, carried out an investigation to see if any magazines would consider taking photos of her without re touching them. It was shocking how many magazines like Vogue, Harpers and even Glamour wouldn't even THINK about leaving photos to their natural state

Also i belong on a very popular networking site called Myspace. And i add friends from america, china, all over the world. The most popular ones on Myspace who merely add people for popularity get over 100 comments on their photos, but they're not natural. Theyre all photo shopped to show slim legs, bright eyes and no spots. It's a really sad fact. I must be one of few who has absolutely no photo shopped photos and all my photos are completely natural and i won't let anyone retouch them as perfection is'nt real and i don't like thinking i'm a fake.

The shocking fact is that on the programme on which Aleesha Dixon made these discoveries, she asked a group of primary school children who they aspired to be like.

Not one of the children said, Sinead O Connor, Hilary Clinton, Jacqueline Wilson...

It was

Ronaldo,

Paris Hilton

Sharpay from High School Musical.

Britney Spears

Justin Timberlake.


Sharpay from High School Musical..
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5594/sharpay4yj4.jpg


Paris Hilton...
http://regmedia.co.uk/2005/05/24/paris_hilton.jpg


this is what little girls these days want to be...

it makes me cry because the little girl who said she wanted to be like Sharpay (Ashley Tisdale) said she wanted to be her because she was blonde, pretty and slim. And the little girl labeled herself as ugly.

Just really saddens me. The media want perfect. And if your not what they consider perfect you don't stand a chance.

[JiveLad]

Of course it’s relevant and here is the irony

We are outraged that a girl with a good voice but who was ugly (according to the media, relatively anyway) was not allowed to sing in front of a billion + people. We are also angry that a pretty girl with a poorer voice was (Note poorer, I understand it was still a good voice). Decisions were made at the last minute

"We"? Is that the royal "we" - or the whole of the UK population - or the (fine, upstanding) Ceroc forumites across the globe or the UK media?

I can't say that I was outraged at all - or angry.

I'm sure the 'uglier' girl will have her moment in 2012 when she is interviewed on the Richard and Judy show.

(And I expect that there will be a year long TV competition to vote for a singer at the 2012 Olympics with Simon Cowell and Andrew Lloyd Weber judging).

[Sparkles]

Just really saddens me. The media want perfect. And if your not what they consider perfect you don't stand a chance.

- and what is even worse is that the media's idea of perfect is not static, it changes as often as the wind does!

If you look back a while (I'm talking a couple of hundred years or so here) people's idea of a 'perfect' female body was to have a lot of curves and a tummy... this is mainly because it indicated they had enough money to be well-fed and were likely to be fertile - attributes aspired to by most of the general population who were starving and disease-ridden.

We are so lucky nowadays that our standards of living have improved to the state they have, but it's made a twisted idea of perfection for young people to aspire to.

[Mini Mac]

Because being ugly shouldn’t matter if we have a good voice

Paul Potts for one. Look at him, he's not what some people might call attractive but he's got an amazing voice!!!!!

http://www.shaunoakes.com/images/paul-potts.jpg

[David Bailey]

is it ? communism AND a dictatorship ?

Well, technically, it's neither. According to Wikipedia it's a single-party socialist republic, whatever that means.

"Dictatorship" is probably not quite right - "authoritarian", maybe.

I agree with the sentiments on your evil scale, but you can't just dismiss this either - it shows that they will do anything to present what they want to present and not the truth - how can anyone ever trust China ?

You trusted them before this?

I must admit, the CGI stuff surprised me. But the miming? Not so much.

[stewart38]

Thats nonsense - if they went with the talented one in the first place there would be no other child involved.

I think the anger in the media is that they were duped into believing that a beautiful child could have a beautiful voice to. (I understand she had a good voice)

Yang Peiyi the one who song (in the back ground) said she was more then pleased to share the honour

Of course her uneven teeth, while unremarkable in a seven-year-old are now plastered over every front page, im sure she will benefit from the media hype. NOT

The fact is she is going to get world wide support that China should have let the ugly child sing and pose is going to go down great

There young children for god sake

[Twirly]

Of course her uneven teeth, while unremarkable in a seven-year-old are now plastered over every front page, im sure she will benefit from the media hype. NOT

Oh I don't know, some US orthodontist will probably put her on a "mercy flight" and offer to fix her teeth for free if she will sing an advert for them Then once she's out of China, she'll be wooed by the West and offered a recording contract, have money and fame... maybe.

[Lory]

it makes me cry because the little girl who said she wanted to be like Sharpay (Ashley Tisdale) said she wanted to be her because she was blonde, pretty and slim. And the little girl labeled herself as ugly.

Take heart, here's a 'true' inside story of the High School Musical (the touring how, of which my daughters friend is the understudy for the main character) Anyway, there's a girl in the show, who got picked 'because' she was plump and wore braces etc. Well during the run of the show, because of all the dancing, she's lost a lot of weight and is now one of the slimmest girls and she's also had her braces off, the producers are having a bit of a battle at the moment because she has a contract but it doesn't mention that she has to 'stay fat and ugly!

He he he, she's having the last laugh!

[stewart38]

Oh I don't know, some US orthodontist will probably put her on a "mercy flight" and offer to fix her teeth for free if she will sing an advert for them Then once she's out of China, she'll be wooed by the West and offered a recording contract, have money and fame... maybe.

When do you think the USA will have to invade China ? They seem to be doing rather too well with all this communist stuff

[Barry Shnikov]

You people watched the opening ceremony?!!

What, were you shackled in front of the TV, or something? Couldn't shut your eyes because the lids were held open with wires?

I'm off dancing and I still found something more interesting to do. (Racks brain...) Well, I can't remember what it was but it can't have been less interesting...