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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy McGregor View Post
    Noo!!!

    Can we change it to;


    (e) Should be hung without trial because I belive every word of the post by grease
    I liked mine better - but, you're right, it's a bit harsh!



    I was amused by this bit:

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyman View Post
    (c) Lobby to have a replacement teacher at the venue as soon as possible
    Maybe the owner of the mysterious MJ organisation in question should have a sharp word with the errant teacher!

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyman View Post
    This has to rank as one of the most disheartening experiences and does not bode well either for the teacher concerned or the company itself. I hope that the organisation takes appropriate action and bars this individual from teaching ever again.
    Absolutely - I hope we can all come together on that one. I think the organisation should definitely decide to ban that teacher from all of that organisation's venues.

    Ahhh... hold on, there may be a slight problem there...

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyman View Post
    Irrespective of whether you are participating in the class or not, as long as you are not disrupting the flow of the class and it is a natural thing to talk to people, it doesn't matter because in my experience that is what the venue and teachers encourage. Central London venues are talky and the freedom to talk to your fellow dancers should be encouraged.
    Sorry, but what? We're not talking about saying "hi" to people, we're talking about sustained out-of-class conversation, which is disrupting teaching. Where on Earth is that seen as a Good Thing? And you're saying this should be encouraged? Or encouraged even?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyman View Post
    The best way to deal with this individual is to get them where it hurts most by the following methods:
    To follow up on Lou's post, you also missed out
    (f) Winding him up about which foot to step back on in the First Move

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    If you know better than the teacher, feel free to give him a lesson plan every week.
    Ooh, shall we do this? I can start if you want; an "AXXy's lesson plan for this week" thread sounds like it'd be fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    moaned at you like a £10 prostitue
    Blimey, I have to pay a fiver extra for moaning, Scotland really is good value.

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Blimey, I have to pay a fiver extra for moaning, Scotland really is good value.
    I appear to have dropped my prostitutes T. I'm only holding it for her

    I'm interested though, does AXXy have other modes ? bad, good, fairy, elephant, tinpot dictator/conservative mp, chicken ?? we should be told

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    To follow up on Lou's post, you also missed out
    (f) Winding him up about which foot to step back on in the First Move
    Good point.

    There was no mention of footwork in any of grease's posts. Now that you mention it, it's conspicuous by its absence. Maybe grease's friend enjoyed that aspect of the class? Maybe A**y has actually found
    The One True Footwork...


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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by grease View Post
    Yes have done lessons by this teacher and he goes on an on an on . no wonder they didn`t want to do the lesson .
    Thats a very Homer Simpson attitude to have - what if it was a nuclear safety demonstration? BORING? ZZZZZZZZZZZ<drool>

    One of the 2 that didnt do the lesson has been dancing for 11 years. the other 5.
    Why were these 2 disturbing a beginners class then? or did they just disturb the 2nd class? Are they as arrogant as you make them sound?

    Yes not a regular here , got better things to do (like dancing ) to spend time debating on this site..
    Well, thanks for your thoughts on the matter, and thanks for your vote of convidence on "debate" on this forum. We can take the p!ss in your abscence though I assume ?

    made my point , and night night all.
    Was your point that you have annoyingly loud friends that go to jive classes? If so yes, you did

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    There was no mention of footwork in any of grease's posts.
    But he doesn't pay attention to a class that goes on and on and on...zzzzz..so he may miss things about..er... y'know dance.


    ooh annoying thing #1 for today , well yesterday : watched the Jamie Murray interview after his Wimbledon doubles victory - he says "you know" at the beginning of every single sentence, and, my word, it is SO annoying

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Everyone's pretty much covered everything else that can possibly be found offensive about grease's posts. I had to pick up on this one though...
    Quote Originally Posted by grease View Post
    One other thing , NO ONE HAS MADE ANY REMARK ABOUT MY MISS SPELLING OF MOODS.. TRY READING AND UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF YOU.
    So: either you originally posted this knowing full well your thread title included a mistake, hoping for your thread to be artificially bumped by the pedant brigade, OR you're trying to cover up for how idiotic it all sounds by trying to get us to focus on your typo (rather than, for example, the approximately 700 other grammatical/punctuation errors in the main body of your post). Not only that, but you do so by text-shouting, proving that you are very convinced of your own importance. You are definitely one smart guy.

    I really hope you decide to set up dance classes on the south coast and we can be entertained for weeks by competitive willy-waving arguments between AXXy, the artist formerly known as WF, and grease...

    By the way, you could try reading this to improve your ability to convince people when you decide to slag off their friends.

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Tessalicious View Post
    to improve your ability to convince people when you decide to slag off their friends.
    I don't think popularity entered into it, for me anyway, i had a good idea what i was going to post and seeing the mention of "A**y" didnt alter that - greases post falls down all on its own...



    ..like a cheap stage stripper with bare feet and way too much baby oil

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Absolutely - I hope we can all come together on that one. I think the organisation should definitely decide to ban that teacher from all of that organisation's venues.
    I think we should have a poll on that one
    Do you think the organisation will listen to the forums opinion ?

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    It depends on how loud it was being done. If it was directly bothering the teacher's own vocal explanations i.e. getting far louder than his, then that's a reason to stop people, but actively telling people to leave when they are choosing to sit out. To tell people to leave the room as if it is a sacrosanct space and an exclusive club? It doesn't sound to me like the teacher is being positive towards his class after a seemingly bad day.

    The whole point of my own response is that flexibility is important and that the teacher's attitude was irresponsible.

    I was also making the point that most people in these venues should talk to each other as a matter of socialising. I realize there may be some out there who want to be part of a closed group, but

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyman View Post
    The whole point of my own response is that flexibility is important and that the teacher's attitude was irresponsible.
    perhaps you should read the posts of the people who actually know what went on rather than just believe third person perspectives of from what i heard was a class that had just two people being deliberately disruptive and the teachers comments were directed at those people

    The post as far as i know (yes i wasnt there either) is just the latest in a long run of badly constructed accusations about one organisation and as such to be honest just strikes me that it is a vendetta by one business who obviously cant make their own business work so wants to try to reduce the amount of people who pay to go to the other organisation.
    therefore the whole thing just sucks as it is completely immoral

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyman View Post
    The whole point of my own response is that flexibility is important and that the teacher's attitude was irresponsible.
    The original post was written with a neon-rimmed bias, but even then, reading between the lines makes me side with the teacher. He complained about talking before, during and after the class and one person insisted that while there WAS talking, it was "quietly" but no one came down on her side to support this. Hmmm, wheres the irresponsibility here? sounds like the teacher had the majority of his class in mind.

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    perhaps you should read the posts of the people who actually know what went on rather than just believe third person perspectives of from what i heard was a class that had just two people being deliberately disruptive and the teachers comments were directed at those people
    I picked that up from the first post, and I've heard nothing about the incident from anyone. Perhaps they should employ a bouncer down there to turf these people out

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    I think we should have a poll on that one
    Can we have a poll? Can we? Please?

    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    Do you think the organisation will listen to the forums opinion ?
    We haven't managed it yet - but never say never!

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    ..like a cheap stage stripper with bare feet and way too much baby oil
    Strippers, llamas on heat, £10 prostitues... I'm detecting a subtle common theme in your analogies today...

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe View Post
    Perhaps they should employ a bouncer down there to turf these people out
    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    lightweight i am 17 stone i have you know
    at 17 stone i bounce quite well
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    I bet it's solid muscle, though.
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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    perhaps you should read the posts of the people who actually know what went on rather than just believe third person perspectives of from what i heard was a class that had just two people being deliberately disruptive and the teachers comments were directed at those people

    The post as far as i know (yes i wasnt there either) is just the latest in a long run of badly constructed accusations about one organisation and as such to be honest just strikes me that it is a vendetta by one business who obviously cant make their own business work so wants to try to reduce the amount of people who pay to go to the other organisation.
    therefore the whole thing just sucks as it is completely immoral
    I genuinely do.

    I must also stress that anything I say is personal opinion and is a case of take it or leave it. The way this was worded made it sound a lot more serious. I am simply offering feedback constructively based on what has been said. If I can't offer an opinion on an open forum like this one, then how can I?

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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Wasn't going to post on this thead but ....

    I have heard that there was an email sent around from a Southern dance group about another down here from a few dancers that I know. The contents of which could be damaging to the dance club (not) mentioned in the first post of this thread.

    However, the dance club that is (not) mentioned is not shiney clean either and has done things to upset and to try and ruin the dance club that emailed out.

    Of course, this is just what I am hearing from other dancers and organisors down here. Some of the stories that come out about what some rival clubs do to each other are beyond belief, and without a doubt some stories you hear are untrue and streached for truth.

    Personally I would like to see all club organisors working together more to get more people in to dancing and expand their clubs that way rather than try dirty tactics to try and get each others dancers.

    The Punters are not stupid, they know what is going on and in general it afects all the clubs

    I don't know what it is like anywhere else in the country but inter club rivalry down here is pretty fierce. I wish it wasn't but it is. I have had no end of greif since starting my club, but I was aware that would happen before I even booked a venue or told anyone about it. I even get grief from the club (not) mentioned in the first post and they are over 20 miles away !!!!!!

    It would do dancing down in the south no end of good if more Ceroc venues opened up down here. Would introduce more people to dancing and then they would migrate to other clubs.

    Maybe it's time to form a alliance of MJ club who all work togther to promote the dance instead of all bitching about eachother and putting people off dancing.

    Lee


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    Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Bartholomew View Post

    Personally I would like to see all club organisors working together more to get more people in to dancing and expand their clubs that way rather than try dirty tactics to try and get each others dancers.

    The Punters are not stupid, they know what is going on and in general it afects all the clubs


    imho this includes ceroc and non ceroc clubs

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