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    Re: Are "things' more important than a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    I would put number 3 after number 5.

    I would place socialising and holidays above shallow wants.
    Thinking on it again I would put socializing above the "Shallow Wants" as well

    I also believe some R&R time is essential but aren't foreign expensive holidays not really "Shallow Wants" as well?

    Do people actually feel they gain much by going to these far-flung places, OK you see pretty things but do you feel you get value for money as these holidays cost thousands of pounds.

    Just trying to understand the benefits before packing my bags for say, New Zealand.

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    Re: Are "things' more important than a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by DundeeDancer View Post
    Thinking on it again I would put socializing above the "Shallow Wants" as well

    I also believe some R&R time is essential but aren't foreign expensive holidays not really "Shallow Wants" as well?

    Do people actually feel they gain much by going to these far-flung places, OK you see pretty things but do you feel you get value for money as these holidays cost thousands of pounds.

    Just trying to understand the benefits before packing my bags for say, New Zealand.

    DD
    A holiday does not have to be to far flung places or even very expensive.

    Get a group of mates together and go camping.
    Hire a cabin somewhere with some friends.
    Go visit someone and take a mini-holiday staying at thier place.

    If you are looking at far flung - build up some frequent flyer points, by getting a credit card that offers frequent flyer points - pay for everything with it and pay it off each month.

    Go to a far flung place where there are other dancers or people you know, who will put you up for free - so the only overhead is the flight.

    If you are packing bags for New Zealand - go over in October when the mega weekender is on - get some dancing in and also a lot of the locals will be happy to offer accomadation.

    If you are looking at Australia - again a lot of the local dancers are happy to put people up. [quick plug - dance weekender and champs in September in Queensland]

    One of the places I go about 6 times a year is Thailand... the only real overhead being the flight, as I have friends there and I stay with them, and when we do travel around a decent hotel is about 11 pounds a night, a good meal from the street cafe's about 50p.

    I would not do "package deals" are there are far better options. Often I book the flight, turn up and then go find my own accomadation locally - which is far cheaper.

    Having just looked it up - flights to New Zealand for the October bash = 833 pounds

    Flights to Aussie for the Sept bash = 981 pounds

    [source - flight centre]

    So it ain't "thousands" considering locals will be happy to offer accomadation, so all you pay for is food and entry to dancing stuff (if that is what you want to do)



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    Re: Are "things' more important than a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by DundeeDancer View Post
    Do people actually feel they gain much by going to these far-flung places, OK you see pretty things but do you feel you get value for money as these holidays cost thousands of pounds.

    DD

    Yes why confused ? Its all relative and personal choice

    Some people want to do a world cruise and put there life savings into it, good luck to them ,what am I to say their ‘wasting their money’

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post

    I would not do "package deals" are there are far better options. Often I book the flight, turn up and then go find my own accommodation locally - which is far cheaper.
    Again better options for you

    Some people like their 5 star comforts don’t want 50p dinners or go looking for accommodation when they get of a 11hr flight.

    Its personal choice and the ‘better options’ for one maybe not for another

    I remember going around Malaysia in my youth (this was mid 80s) and we like to think ourselves as travelers and not tourist. What pretentious crap.

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    Re: Are "things' more important than a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by DundeeDancer View Post
    Do people actually feel they gain much by going to these far-flung places, OK you see pretty things but do you feel you get value for money as these holidays cost thousands of pounds.
    Here's a different perspective then:
    I have a fairly serious Clarins habit and find it tough to walk past a bookshop but other than that (all of my electrical goods are from Asda I think) I spend £yes_thousands_at_a_time on organised tours and very small ship (>100 peeps) cruises to far flung places. On my own! Wouldn't suit many people but I LIKE to have all the decisions made for me, I most certainly do NOT want to DRIVE on a holiday and I absolutely could not be arsed scouring the internet to try and put together the kind of trips that I can buy ready made. And as I am a single supplement payer I also want to have a ready made group of people with whom I can socialise at meals or not as the fancy takes me.


    I look forward to them for months, I read the guide books and the history books (ok so maybe I'm slightly unusual in reading history books for fun) and I scour e-bay and Amazon for fiction set in the places I'm going to. (Will everyone going to Palestine or Egypt this year please remember to read "In the Eye of the Sun" by Ahdaf Soueif ). When I'm there I often have to pinch myself when I think where I've been - paddling like a maddy through a Madagascan mangrove swamp in a dug-out canoe to get back to the landing point before one of two mega water spouts heading towards us can hit? Or standing on Mount Nebo thinking of my rather religious dead grandfather who could not possibly have imagined that any member of his family would actually visit such a place and having the hairs stand up on the back of my very unreligious neck as I hoped he could see me? Having a bunch of school kids take pictures of ME on their phones as the only white face to stretch legs at a stop on the train from KL to Singapore? Paying $10 for the only faded and stained 1965 postcard available in the Maputo Natural History Museum and Flytrap because you know it will always remind you of it and to keep the wee manny in pepsi cola for a month. Finding the only art shop in Tripoli and discovering over tea with the proprietor's friends (who were all just hanging around) that he used to live in Sauchiehall St and got his nose fixed in the Vicky in 1963 when he was studying engineering in Glasgow. One of ~50 Libyans to be awarded permission by the royal family to leave and bring back Libyan knowledge for the oil industry (might be a load of crap but that's what he told me, in slightly Weegie accented English).

    I'm boring you now but that's a tiny selection of things that come to mind in a flash. These memories are more valuable to me than most of my "stuff". It's so much more than just seeing pretty things, it's faces and smells and sounds and conversations and I will continue to do as many weird trips as I possibly can for as long as I can. Am booked for Istanbul to Aleppo on the train followed by the road to Damascus in October ( I do so hope the Americans don't go bombing me for sport) and am contemplating giving up the Clarins for another train ride round Namibia in Feb.

    I re-live these experiences regulary and think to myself how lucky I am to have such a wonderful store of memories so would encourage anyone who had a yen to travel to go for it.

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    Re: Are "things' more important than a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicklet View Post
    very small ship (>100 peeps) .
    should, of course, say <100 peeps

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    Re: Are "things' more important than a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicklet View Post
    should, of course, say <100 peeps
    Great post point is each to their own

    I driven extensively in the USA in the past and thats it isn't everyones ideal holiday but i enjoyed it

    Somone said to me you would be bored to death in the Maldives as there was nothing to do

    I never run out of things to do out there

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