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    So where are all the...

    ...men?

    Time and time again we hear about umpteen men to one lady. Umpteen followers having to move around in classes.

    But why is this the case?

    Is dancing viewed by outsiders as unmanly or something and so turns men off the idea?

    Is it not advertised enough at men?

    Why is there nearly always to many women?

    Anyone got any theories?

    (not that I see any of this as a problem for me though )

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven666 View Post
    ...men?

    Time and time again we hear about umpteen men to one lady. Umpteen followers having to move around in classes.

    But why is this the case?

    Is dancing viewed by outsiders as unmanly or something and so turns men off the idea?

    Is it not advertised enough at men?

    Why is there nearly always to many women?

    Anyone got any theories?

    (not that I see any of this as a problem for me though )
    How many guys have you told about MJ?

    It's just our little secret, isn't it?

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven666 View Post
    ...men?

    Time and time again we hear about umpteen men to one lady. Umpteen followers having to move around in classes.

    But why is this the case?

    Is dancing viewed by outsiders as unmanly or something and so turns men off the idea?

    Is it not advertised enough at men?

    Why is there nearly always to many women?

    Anyone got any theories?

    (not that I see any of this as a problem for me though )

    I can only talk about the few places I go e.g Berko and at present appears to be more men or at least even

    Things like this go in cycles anyway

    Windsor good case in point ive been there with 40 women over (a freebie) and when there was 40 men over (some football match re the men i think they all thought there wouldnt be any men there so all turned up !)

    Weekenders now that tends to have permanent imbalance for reasons i never fully understood

    Will be interesting to see how Francos come out re gender balance

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Unmanly and harder, I'd personally expect more imbalance than there already is.

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    Re: So where are all the...

    My theories about the lack of men are as follows:

    • It is more difficult for the men to learn to lead so more are put off in the initial weeks
    • Men tend to come with one friend or on their own - women come in bigger groups initially
    • More women than men enjoy dancing for the sake of it
    • A lot of women leave a partner at home to go dancing - I imagine this rarely happens the other way round?

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    Re: So where are all the...

    I've tried to persuade male friends/housemates to come along to the ceroc classes in NI, I even tried the "there are loads of really cute girls" line, but no success as yet. I think a lot of men have a mental block and cannot imagine themselves dancing, therefore won't try it because since they can't visualise it it can't happen...

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    Re: So where are all the...

    It's a good question. Took my wife 20 years to persuade me to come along and now I look back on all that lost time. Why did I resist for so long - don't know but it could have been to do with the fact that I never felt I was any good at dancing so was probably scared to try. That and the fact that a brief flirtation with ballroom several years earlier left me feeling that all dancing would bring was a bunch of people so far up their own ars**s telling me I was doing everything wrong (pretty much the feeling at that ballroom class).

    I've tried to persuade my son to come give it a try and he's not interested. My [male] friends think I wear sequinned trousers and shirts slashed to the waist (I do of course but only for special occasions when I get my medallion out) and they laugh at the idea. A lot of the females are interested but we don't want to make the imbalance worse do we.

    In the meantime I will try to dance with everyone that I can. Hey, it's a dirty job but someone's got to do it..................

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven666 View Post
    ...men?

    Time and time again we hear about umpteen men to one lady. Umpteen followers having to move around in classes.
    we often have more men than women in the beginners class this tends to even out in the intermediate though

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    some football match re the men i think they all thought there wouldnt be any men there so all turned up
    odd thing is last time i remember a big football match was on we had more men

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by martingold View Post
    odd thing is last time i remember a big football match was on we had more men
    Dancers generally are not into football

    So if Man Utd play in a big Euro game you tend to get a lot more men at venues

    Bit different for if England play


    Last time at Fulham more men
    Last time at Chesham about even
    Last time Berko more men
    Last time bicester about even

    Is the lack of men more of a northern problem ?

    maybe a thread or pole so we can get a nationwide survey ?

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    Is the lack of men more of a northern problem?
    It never happens at Nantwich. Well once a year at most.

    At Sandbach there was one man over at the start of the intermediate but that's a rare occasion. It soon went the other way though.

    Up North, when there's too many men it's generally only 1 over and when there's too many women which is almost every time, there's stack loads over.

    Though I did see 6 men over at Stockport once. Though I have also seen 20 women over at Stockport too.

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    Re: So where are all the...

    The Jam House last night had almost equal Leaders and Followers. The Ladies were very pleased. Was there no footy on the telly?

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by dep View Post
    The Jam House last night had almost equal Leaders and Followers. The Ladies were very pleased. Was there no footy on the telly?
    More footie on tele = more men at venue

    Id be intrested how many men and/or women on this forum have been to live football match in the last year league and/or non league. id guess under 5%

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    More footie on tele = more men at venue

    Id be intrested how many men and/or women on this forum have been to live football match in the last year league and/or non league. id guess under 5%
    I have a season ticket at the Alex so I guess the answer for me is no!

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    More footie on tele = more men at venue

    Id be intrested how many men and/or women on this forum have been to live football match in the last year league and/or non league. id guess under 5%
    I am a football fan but actually turned down a big local match in favour of dancing one night. The venue was completely dead in terms of both men and women. I guess men were at the match and women knew men would be at the match or something like that

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    More footie on tele = more men at venue
    I've noticed this too. The very rare occasions when there has been extra men its usually been a night when there has been a big match on.

    I think the men all think that no men will be there so they make a point of coming (after setting the video of course!). Sometimes gets quieter earlier as they head home to watch the match after dancing instead.

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn View Post
    I've noticed this too. The very rare occasions when there has been extra men its usually been a night when there has been a big match on.

    I think the men all think that no men will be there so they make a point of coming (after setting the video of course!). Sometimes gets quieter earlier as they head home to watch the match after dancing instead.
    I'd thought it was the women making the assumption that big footie match = no men at dance venue and so not bothering to turn up (or staying in to watch the footie themselves!).

    Anyway, mostly it works. Have seen it backfire once this year when there were many women over one night at Clapham when the footie was on, but otherwise it's always been a good night for me - particularly last year when England were playing in the rugby. Had the best night at Chiswick ever - could not get off the dancefloor

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Twirly View Post
    I'd thought it was the women making the assumption that big footie match = no men at dance venue and so not bothering to turn up (or staying in to watch the footie themselves!).
    Probably a combination of both.

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    Re: So where are all the...

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    More footie on tele = more men at venue
    Well, I have seen that has (unexpectedly) been the case (maybe women not going cos they think all the men will be watching the game?).

    Except last Tuesday at Epsom....there were shedloads* of women over. The teacher suggested it was because of the football. (And it was a big nite for footy).

    So - it's probaby more complicated than we think.



    * Not sure of the collective noun for an excess of female dancers.

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    Re: So where are all the...

    I have tried encouraging my friends to do it for exercise which is one of the major reasons I do it. To no avail. They still prefer the gym or the drinking bar and they just seem to feel there is nothing to interest them in dance. I do not think it is an issue of 'manliness', just disinterest.

    I need a new venue on a Tuesday night at the moment so it looks like Epsom is the place to go. I find football match nights are bad because the women seem to give up on the grounds that the men will all be watching the television so we end up with a shortage of women!

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    btw - welcome to the forum Hagen

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