Is it fair to make an absolute beginner or a nervous beginner to enter a J&J competition just to create a gender balance !
I can lead the basic 6 moves in WCS (done it soooooo many times in classes) but as a female I can't enter the comp as a lead - something wrong there
OR should we follow the American way of not restricting female entrants and making the leads dance twice
--ooOoo--
Age is a question of mind over matter, if you don't mind, it doesn't matter
Leroy (Satchel) Paige (1906-1982)
Mickey Mouse's girlfriend, Minnie, made her film debut, along with Mickey, in "Steamboat Willie" on November 18, 1928.
That date is recognized as her official birthday.
(wrong choice of words on my part though - sorry)
It also happened at the WCS J&J at Brean - the leads were not forced to enter, more like gently persuaded Have to admit, I too am guilty of trying to get more leads to enter J&J / DWAS etc., but now I know it can cause distress, I promise not to do it again
--ooOoo--
Age is a question of mind over matter, if you don't mind, it doesn't matter
Leroy (Satchel) Paige (1906-1982)
Mickey Mouse's girlfriend, Minnie, made her film debut, along with Mickey, in "Steamboat Willie" on November 18, 1928.
That date is recognized as her official birthday.
So, am I right in thinking then , that females cannot enter J & J's as a lead?
Why is this?
--ooOoo--
Age is a question of mind over matter, if you don't mind, it doesn't matter
Leroy (Satchel) Paige (1906-1982)
Mickey Mouse's girlfriend, Minnie, made her film debut, along with Mickey, in "Steamboat Willie" on November 18, 1928.
That date is recognized as her official birthday.
Good question.
As you say, its more of a pursuasion. The same kind of pursuasion when someone asks for a favour and you feel obliged to accept.
IMO it shouldn't happen. I have witnessed people being turned off competing for ever after having been convinced to enter. Their lack of confidence is further reinforced by their lack of progress.
One of the comps I did for WCS in the USA had the guys dancing 7 tracks in a row!!!! We were all absolutely exhausted but the overwhelming number of followers meant we had to dance.
I made a point of saying to my partners in the later tracks that I hope I can do them justice after having dance 4 or 5 tracks straight. I hope I did but it must have an effect.
Trouble is, this is the only way I can see to run it without 'convincing' people to enter.
No, your right!
I've copied this from the Jive addiction rules
General
1. Competitors will be one Male Leader and one Female Follower.
2. The maximum number of entries in each division is at the organisers
discretion. There is no minimum number of entries.
3. Guidelines for expected swing content are 90% in Strictly Swing. It is at
the judges discretion to determine that the required swing content has
been met.
4. An individual is not permitted to dance twice within either the Novice or
Open division, but can compete in both divisions.
MODERATOR AT YOUR SERVICE
"If you're going to do something tonight, that you know you'll be sorry for in the morning, plan a lie in." Lorraine
Bet those rules would never stand up under sex discrimination legislation....
What are the rules with Modern Jive/Ceroc comps?
or what about ballroom comps? I think I was told that girls could only lead in ballroom comps up until a certain age . . . . is that correct?
--ooOoo--
Age is a question of mind over matter, if you don't mind, it doesn't matter
Leroy (Satchel) Paige (1906-1982)
Mickey Mouse's girlfriend, Minnie, made her film debut, along with Mickey, in "Steamboat Willie" on November 18, 1928.
That date is recognized as her official birthday.
I note they have already sold out of ladies places in the lucky dip (Cerco Champs) just booked mine
I wonder if for next year they could just make it open re leads
If your a women and dont like to be lead by a women then you know the comp isnt for you as that may occur
with more and more women tending to lead I never understand why this isnt a solution even at weekenders , instead of arbituray 50/50 men women split
Half the women on this froum could lead better then me ,know more moves anyway
I know policing it would be hard but....
For weekenders its harder I agree and open to abuse but what about say ceroc comp ?
We had all female intermediate entries
why not make lucky dip non gender specific ? (Im on the fence with that idea)
WCS seems to have a lack of male leads so why not encourage female leads supported by comps ?
why in 2008 should just men lead ?
I am in agreement here, I think the gender shouldn't matter in a competition and in most of the MJ comps, it doesn't. I've yet to see a same gender couple win though, (although that may change this year at the Ceroc Champs, as we have a very good same sex couple entering! ) I think Jenny and Danni did pretty well at the Midlands champs but I can't remember exactly where they came.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Bookmarks