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    Question "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Say it ain't so!!

    I've heard this from too many seperate sources now for me to completely ignore the possiblity... have they all come from peeved ex-competitors who "should have" won?? From ex ceroc staff?? From people in the know?? From judges who have holidayed in Barbados sometime in June after a the Champs one year??

    ...anyone got any thoughts?!?

    I'm not interested in reasoned debate here... I have my brown envelope ready, and was curious as to how much I should put in it...

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Aren't you getting them confused with the old 'UK Jive Open' comps?**

    **I know I know ... SO last century....

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ View Post
    have they all come from peeved ex-competitors who "should have" won??
    That, and peeved spectators who think their friends should have won

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Funny that...

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    They are fixed?

    I never realised they were broken.
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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi View Post
    They are fixed?

    I never realised they were broken.
    My question is.. are they fixed so that they'll never become broken??

    Or, has fixing them (if they are fixed) actually broken them??

    Oh, my brain hurts...

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ View Post
    Say it ain't so!!

    I've heard this from too many seperate sources now for me to completely ignore the possiblity... have they all come from peeved ex-competitors who "should have" won?? From ex ceroc staff?? From people in the know?? From judges who have holidayed in Barbados sometime in June after a the Champs one year??

    ...anyone got any thoughts?!?

    I'm not interested in reasoned debate here... I have my brown envelope ready, and was curious as to how much I should put in it...


    NO.........
    Thats the first i've heard about it, i thought all major comps would have a judging system in place to prevent this

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by Achaeco View Post
    NO.........
    Thats the first i've heard about it, i thought all major comps would have a judging system in place to prevent this
    As an operative from an independent Competition... if U are saying that U have heard Ceroc Champs are not fixed, then that would be fairly reassuring to all...


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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Isn't the speculation about fixing, all part of the 'fun' of competitions?

    Personally, I think its great to have that element of doubt... I mean, what else do the losers have to cling to?
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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lory View Post
    Personally, I think its great to have that element of doubt... I mean, what else do the losers have to cling to?
    The fun of competing?

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    The fun of competing?
    CJ said, he wasn't interested in reasoned debate
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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    A Dancing Competition fixed? Who ever heard of such a thing?
    Arrest made in alleged dancing fix

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lory View Post
    CJ said, he wasn't interested in reasoned debate
    But I wasn't being reasonable - I hate competing....

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    First I have heard of it also

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ View Post
    Say it ain't so!!

    I've heard this from too many seperate sources now for me to completely ignore the possiblity... have they all come from peeved ex-competitors who "should have" won?? From ex ceroc staff?? From people in the know?? From judges who have holidayed in Barbados sometime in June after a the Champs one year??

    ...anyone got any thoughts?!?

    I'm not interested in reasoned debate here... I have my brown envelope ready, and was curious as to how much I should put in it...
    So funny.... Put in a large amount and send it to me...

    Then I will PM you...

    The funniest thing I came across, was being told BEFORE a comp, that we would not win coz we had X in our team!!!

    he he - got to love politics...

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    The funniest thing I came across, was being told BEFORE a comp, that we would not win coz we had X in our team!!!
    And did you win?

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ View Post
    As an operative from an independent Competition... if U are saying that U have heard Ceroc Champs are not fixed, then that would be fairly reassuring to all...


    HOLD ON........
    I didnt say it was'nt fixed, i just said that i had heard nothing to say it was.

    Saying that, i have now spoken to two X Ceroc teachers (obviously nameless) who have said it's NOT fixed, but there is a bias towards Ceroc venue'ees (is that a word ?) and a direction away from other organisations.

    Out of interest and this is a genuine question. How many none Ceroc teacher/taxi's/venue managers/devout Cerocer's/anti any other MJ'ers have won any of the Ceroc heats in the last 9 years? Remember........ Genuine question.

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    And did you win?

    No, but that could have been coz we were rubbish

    On the other side of the coin... I did have an "absolutely not fixed" experience in Australia:

    There were 10 teams and the competition for teams that year was of a high standard.

    We were told when we put our entry in, that we could not do it with all 5 couples, as one couple was in direct competition in one of the Ceroc areas and had had a falling out with the comp organiser. So we were told to only use 4 couples or we could not enter.

    After lengthy discussions, we were allowed to compete with all 5 couples...
    to the organiser

    Due to the complete fairness of the judging, and the total "non-involvement" in the outcome by the comp organiser, everyone had an equal chance and we did in fact win (even though it was not the result the comp organiser would have prefered).

    I see this as a clear indication of this particular comp not being "fixed".

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    As there is no gambling/betting involved, there is no monetary incentive to "fix" a dancing contest.

    Unlike football, boxing, cricket, Pop Idol, greyhounds, horse racing, Formula One etc.,

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    Re: "The Ceroc Champs are fixed"

    Quote Originally Posted by Astro View Post
    As there is no gambling/betting involved, there is no monetary incentive to "fix" a dancing contest.

    Unlike football, boxing, cricket, Pop Idol, greyhounds, horse racing, Formula One etc.,


    And that means it cant be fixed?

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