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    Favourite poems

    I have to own up to the fact that poetry isn't high on my list of priorities. With one or two exceptions, most serious poets don't write about stuff that I can identify with, so I've largely ignored them. Although - on the less serious side - I would support John Hegley for Poet Laureate.

    My guess is that Gordon Brown feels the same way - otherwise why contribute an extract from a doctoral thesis to the book World Leaders' Favourite Poems? At least George Bush had the sense to keep stum.

    Among the favourites listed are:
    Gerry Adams - The Lake Isle of Innisfree - WB Yeats
    Ian Paisley - I Must Go On - James Kyle Paisley (very appropriate)
    Ariel Sharon - We Are Both From The Same Village - Naomi Shemer (hmmm)
    Jose Maria Aznar - If - Rudyard Kipling (well, someone had to choose it...)

    So, do you have a favourite poem? Alternatively, what should George Bush have chosen?

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    Re: Favourite poems

    My current favourite. I also quite like (if that's the right word...probably not given it's about war) Wilfred Owen, but mainly because I studied his poetry in Higher English.


    Warning


    When I am an old woman I shall wear purple
    With a red hat which doesn't go, and doesn't suit me.
    And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves
    And satin sandals, and say we've no money for butter.
    I shall sit down on the pavement when I'm tired
    And gobble up samples in shops and press alarm bells
    And run my stick along the public railings
    And make up for the sobriety of my youth.
    I shall go out in my slippers in the rain
    And pick flowers in other people's gardens
    And learn to spit.

    You can wear terrible shirts and grow more fat
    And eat three pounds of sausages at a go
    Or only bread and pickle for a week
    And hoard pens and pencils and beermats and things in boxes.

    But now we must have clothes that keep us dry
    And pay our rent and not swear in the street
    And set a good example for the children.
    We must have friends to dinner and read the papers.

    But maybe I ought to practice a little now?
    So people who know me are not too shocked and surprised
    When suddenly I am old, and start to wear purple.

    Jenny Joseph


    I try not to think about George Bush.



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    Re: Favourite poems

    My Favourite poem is a sonnet from William Shakespeare

    Sonnet 17

    Who will believe my verse in time to come,
    If it were fill'd with your most high deserts?
    Though yet, heaven knows, it is but as a tomb
    Which hides your life and shows not half your parts.
    If I could write the beauty of your eyes
    And in fresh numbers number all your graces,
    The age to come would say 'This poet lies:
    Such heavenly touches ne'er touch'd earthly faces.'
    So should my papers yellow'd with their age
    Be scorn'd like old men of less truth than tongue,
    And your true rights be term'd a poet's rage
    And stretched metre of an antique song:
    But were some child of yours alive that time,
    You should live twice; in it and in my rhyme

    I love it.

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    Re: Favourite poems

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Feet View Post
    When I am an old woman I shall wear purple...
    I like that; reminds me a little of the film Tatie Danielle. Which reminds me of Barbara one of the few poems that I do rate highly, by Jacques Prévert. I hope the translation below gives an insight for those who can't read the original French version (if not, at least translating it kept me occupied this evening!) It helps to know that Brest is a port on the French coast. And that it's set in World War II - though it could equally well be in Vietnam / Bosnia / Iraq. And that Prévert is addressing Barbara informally (using 'tu') rather than using the formal 'vous', as if she is a friend or family member.


    Remember, Barbara
    It was raining unceasingly on Brest that day
    And you were walking smiling
    Radiant delighted dripping-wet
    In the rain
    Remember, Barbara
    It was raining unceasingly on Brest
    And I ran into you on the rue de Siam
    You were smiling
    And I was smiling too
    Remember Barbara
    You who I didn't know
    You who didn't know me
    Remember
    Remember when still that same day
    Don't forget
    A man was sheltering under a porch
    And he shouted your name
    Barbara
    And you ran towards him in the rain
    Dripping-wet delighted radiant
    And you threw yourself into his arms
    Remember that Barbara
    And don't be annoyed with me if I address you as 'tu'
    I say 'tu' to all those I love
    Even if I've only seen them once
    I say "tu" to all those I love
    Even if I don't know them
    Remember Barbara
    Don't forget
    That good and happy rain
    On your happy face
    On that happy town
    That rain on the sea
    On the arsenal
    On the boat to Ouessant
    Oh Barbara
    What bloody stupidity war is
    What has become of you now
    Under this rain of iron
    Of fire of steel of blood
    And the one who held you in his arms
    Lovingly
    Is he dead disappeared or even still living
    Oh Barbara
    It rained unceasingly on Brest
    As it rained before
    But it's no longer the same and everything is wrecked
    It's a rain of grief terrible and desolate
    It's no longer even a storm
    Of iron of steel of blood
    Just simply some clouds
    Which die like dogs
    Dogs that disappear
    With the currents over Brest
    And go to rot far away
    Far away very far from Brest
    Of which nothing remains.
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    Re: Favourite poems

    I like Robert Browning's Porphyria's Lover. It's disturbing and creepy. I'm also a fan of Wilfred Owen's stuff like Tiger Feet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Porphyria's Lover
    The rain set early in tonight,
    The sullen wind was soon awake,
    It tore the elm'right-tops down for spite,
    and did its worst to vex the lake:
    I listened with heart fit to break.
    When glided in Porphyria; straight
    She shut the cold out and the storm,
    And kneeled and made the cheerless grate
    Blaze up, and all the cottage warm;
    Which done, she rose, and from her form
    Withdrew the dripping cloak and shawl,
    And laid her soiled gloves by, untied
    Her hat and let the damp hair fall,
    And, last, she sat down by my side
    And called me. When no voice replied,
    She put my arm about her waist,
    And made her smooth white shoulder bare,
    And all her yellow hair displaced,
    And, stooping, made my cheek lie there,
    And spread, o'er all, her yellow hair,
    Murmuring how she loved me--she
    Too weak, for all her heart's endeavor,
    To set its struggling passion free
    From pride, and vainer ties dissever,
    And give herself to me forever.
    But passion sometimes would prevail,
    Nor could tonight's gay feast restrain
    A sudden thought of one so pale
    For love of her, and all in vain:
    So, she was come through wind and rain.
    Be sure I looked up at her eyes
    Happy and proud; at last I knew
    Porphyria worshiped me: surprise
    Made my heart swell, and still it grew
    While I debated what to do.
    That moment she was mine, mine, fair,
    Perfectly pure and good: I found
    A thing to do, and all her hair
    In one long yellow string I wound
    Three times her little throat around,
    And strangled her. No pain felt she;
    I am quite sure she felt no pain.
    As a shut bud that holds a bee,
    I warily oped her lids: again
    Laughed the blue eyes without a stain.
    And I untightened next the tress
    About her neck; her cheek once more
    Blushed bright beneath my burning kiss:
    I propped her head up as before
    Only, this time my shoulder bore
    Her head, which droops upon it still:
    The smiling rosy little head,
    So glad it has its utmost will,
    That all it scorned at once is fled,
    And I, its love, am gained instead!
    Porphyria's love: she guessed not how
    Her darling one wish would be heard.
    And thus we sit together now,
    And all night long we have not stirred,
    And yet God has not said a word!

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    Re: Favourite poems

    I have always preferred the metaphysical poets and William Blake (Songs of Innocence and Experience...think Tyger Tyger), but also, I love WW1 poems by Wilfred Owen (Anthem for Doomed Youth), Rudyard Kipling (The Bridegroom) and Siegfried Sassoon. Having first read "Dulce et Decorum Est" at 17, it has been one of my favourites ever since;


    DULCE ET DECORUM EST1
    Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,

    Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,

    Till on the haunting flares2 we turned our backs

    And towards our distant rest3 began to trudge.

    Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots

    But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;

    Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots4

    Of tired, outstripped5 Five-Nines6 that dropped behind.

    Gas!7 Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,

    Fitting the clumsy helmets8 just in time;

    But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,

    And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime9 . . .

    Dim, through the misty panes10 and thick green light,

    As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

    In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,

    He plunges at me, guttering,11 choking, drowning.

    If in some smothering dreams you too could pace

    Behind the wagon that we flung him in,

    And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,

    His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;

    If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood

    Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,

    Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud12

    Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,

    My friend, you would not tell with such high zest13

    To children ardent14 for some desperate glory,

    The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est

    Pro patria mori.15


    (It is an wonderful and great honour to die for one's country)



    Truly haunting

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    Re: Favourite poems

    And now one for cat lovers everywhere!

    The Cats' Protection League - Roger McGough


    Midnight. A knock at the door.
    Open it? Better had.
    Three heavy cats, mean and bad.

    They offer protection. I ask, 'What for?'
    The Boss-cat snarls, 'You know the score.
    Listen man and listen good

    If you wanna stay in the neighbourhood,
    Pay your dues or the toms will call
    And wail each night on the backyard wall.

    Mangle the flowers, and as for the lawn
    a smelly minefield awaits you at dawn.'
    These guys meant business without a doubt

    Three cans of tuna, I handed them out.
    They then disappeared like bats into hell
    Those bad, bad cats from the CPL.



    Also love anything by Wendy Cope; Flowers in particular - I'll see if I can find it later!


    Elaine
    Last edited by ElaineB; 1st-April-2008 at 01:00 PM.

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