The more experience dancer should do whatever necessary to make the less experienced dancer not feel inadequate.
Lead alligns with the follow
Follow alligns with the lead
So who should allign with who after a turn or spin?
(yey for polls)
- incidently I was following recently with a teacher who said I should be alligning myself with the lead on a return. Was this right?
The more experience dancer should do whatever necessary to make the less experienced dancer not feel inadequate.
I still feel the underlying trend in your thought process is "who can I blame" when it does not go to plan.
Do not attach blame to either party.
Try approaching it with a solution finding attitude.
What can I do to help the enjoyment process? This might even extend to a short chat afterwards. "I was having difficulty with one of the moves" or "could you help me by explaining what you were feeling"?
Alternatively, ask your teacher for feedback on your technique and then compare that feedback to responses received from your partners when it does not go as well as planned.
Last edited by dep; 19th-March-2008 at 04:09 PM.
It depends.
If someone follows perfectly and if they are led perfectly, then the follow should always align to the lead. But they shouldn't have guess where they're meant to be to align: they should be led to exactly the right spot.
In reality good dancers aren't perfect and it becomes a dance of mutual alignment. The lead's main responsibility is to ensure that the follow is in an appropriate position before leading the next move. This often means that they have to either align themselves or guide their partner into alignment. A good follow makes this easy.
In even more reality, the vast majority of people doing ceroc can't (and haven't been taught) how to do a spot turn. Or how to lead a spot turn. That means when they try to turn on the spot, they travel - often in random directions. Similarly, when doing a travelling turn, they drift off the line and/or are not lead on a clear line. At the end of either a spot or travelling turn, you often have to fight to get back in to alignment. This is when you often see the more experienced dancer compensating for the less experienced dancer. That is, in my opinion the wrong answer. Instead of working out how to manage the symptom, we should try to cure the disease.
The one exception to this (and it's something I do all the time) is when either partner (semi-)intentionally wanders (or wonders) off their line. Then it's entirely their responsibility to get back into alignment in time for the next move.
Ask a different person, get a different answer. My answer is pretty much the same as it was to your last question - what did you lead her to do at the end of this spin / turn? She should probably do that. If she didn't, you didn't lead it in a way she could follow. Try a different way.
isnt this how unintentional circular dancing starts?
i.e being out of alignment after a turn/spin
Last edited by jemessex; 20th-March-2008 at 12:54 PM.
From personall experience if good eye contact is mantained the follower wil be in the correct position after every turn.
I think it is all about eye contact.
Followers look the bas*ard in the eye at all times, the leader is more nervous than you are.
DTS Dave XX XXX
In my opinion, the follow should align themselves with the lead after a spin/turn/return. Some follows like to cheat and do a 3/4 turn by doing the circular motion that you see on some Ceroc dance floors.
*shrug*
Chaotic neutral
From what I've been taught and how I dance, both partners should always try and remain "flashlighting" each other. Especially true for turns and spins where one partner has just had their back to the other.
In this case, the lead should have started facing their partner and the follower should complete the turn facing the lead (unless led otherwise)
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