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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Quote Originally Posted by Twirly View Post
    But since you don't know which dance that One is going to be, it would be very easy to miss it by simply waiting around for it surely?
    Sure - it's an artificial comparison, it's not like you go to Tescos and pick out one or the other, you can't tell which dances will be great in advance. I'm not saying it's sensible to sit out 10 dances in a row waiting for a great dance, either.

    I'm simply making a value comparison - which is, that I value the 1 great dance more than the 10 average ones. That's all. So hypothetically, if I were given a choice, by the God Of Dancing or whoever, I'd choose the 1 great dance.

    But, to repeat, note the "hypothetical".

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinHarper View Post
    On average, I enjoy dancing, so 10 average dances means half an hour of enjoyment.

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinHarper View Post
    50% of my dances are above average, and 50% of my dances are below average.
    If this is true, we can state two things:

    1) You never have a dance that is exactly average
    2) Your below average-dances are, on average, exactly as bad as your above-average dances are good. So you don't tend to have, for example, nine pretty good dances and one monumentally bad one.

    What this boils down to is that your above-average-to-below-average ratio appears almost artificially contrived.... have you been doing this deliberately to rig the poll?

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    For me a good or great dance is determined by the response of my partner.

    A first night beginner can give that great big smile that says I just realised I can dance. I feel great inside when that happens.

    A newcomer comes out of an assisted double spin and the look on her face says "I never knew I could do that, but it felt wonderful" Again satisfaction in bringing enjoyment to my partner.

    It's all down to feedback, even the big hug at the end to say "thanks".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dep View Post
    For me a good or great dance is determined by the response of my partner.

    A first night beginner can give that great big smile that says I just realised I can dance. I feel great inside when that happens.

    A newcomer comes out of an assisted double spin and the look on her face says "I never knew I could do that, but it felt wonderful" Again satisfaction in bringing enjoyment to my partner.

    It's all down to feedback, even the big hug at the end to say "thanks".
    I refer back to my earlier post. A great dance is great because WE make it great. If you find you're having lots of (let alone HALF ) dances that are below par, may I be so bold as to suggest you start looking for the reason close to home

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Quote Originally Posted by StokeBloke View Post
    I refer back to my earlier post. A great dance is great because WE make it great. If you find you're having lots of (let alone HALF ) dances that are below par, may I be so bold as to suggest you start looking for the reason close to home
    I would agree with you Stoke in most cases but there are some partners that you just can not do anything with, especially as a follower. Also just for a leader, if your trying to have fun/dance with a wardrobe with grippy handles, its very difficult to make that dancer improve by yourself. Although with you, i think you could manage to move a wardrobe with grippy handles and still have fun.... (you manage me alright)

    If im dancing with tigger, who wants to look around the room, and is doing all the technical moves, this would be almost impossible for me to improve unless i hijacked. If i hijack this sort of dancer, they actually tend to get frightened and go one of two ways, one, they sort of stop mid track and tell me dont worry about it, (because they think i didn't know wot to do) or they get the frightened rabbit look and **** themselves. Either way, its hard to improve.

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    I don't think I've ever queued for a dance - do people really do that, or is it an urban myth?
    It's usually only the women that have to do this. The Hammersmith refusal row is probably just one of these such queues and the women don't want to lose their place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    I would agree with you Stokie in most cases but there are some partners that you just can not do anything with, especially as a follower. Also just for a leader, if your trying to have fun/dance with a wardrobe with grippy handles, its very difficult to make that dancer improve by yourself. Although with you, i think you could manage to move a wardrobe with grippy handles and still have fun.... (you manage me alright)

    If im dancing with tigger, who wants to look around the room, and is doing all the technical moves, this would be almost impossible for me to improve unless i hijacked. If i hijack this sort of dancer, they actually tend to get frightened and go one of two ways, one, they sort of stop mid track and tell me dont worry about it, (because they think i didn't know wot to do) or they get the frightened rabbit look and **** themselves. Either way, its hard to improve.
    Agreed. The point I am making is simply this. If someone says 50% of their dances are below par, that isn't the same as the odd dance with someone who can't keep up. There will always be an odd exception to the rule.

    You aren't odd, but you are always exceptional Trouble - for all the right reasons

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    I'm glad to see that some dancers understand maths to a higher level than "5, 6, 7, 8".

    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    What this boils down to is that your above-average-to-below-average ratio appears almost artificially contrived....
    Alternatively, I was talking about my median average dance, rather than my mean average dance.

    In blues, most of my dances are over par, as I take more strokes to finish than other dancers.

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Quote Originally Posted by StokeBloke View Post
    I refer back to my earlier post. A great dance is great because WE make it great. If you find you're having lots of (let alone HALF ) dances that are below par, may I be so bold as to suggest you start looking for the reason close to home

    As has been said, "average" is not "mediocre", it's, well, average. The mid-point of your dancing experience, basically. I'm not sure how else I can explain it...

    Some people's average is higher than others, of course

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Quote Originally Posted by StokeBloke View Post
    I refer back to my earlier post. A great dance is great because WE make it great. If you find you're having lots of (let alone HALF ) dances that are below par, may I be so bold as to suggest you start looking for the reason close to home
    ...or go somewhere where the music's better.
    Love dance, will travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinHarper View Post
    I'm glad to see that some dancers understand maths to a higher level than "5, 6, 7, 8".

    Alternatively, I was talking about my median average dance, rather than my mean average dance.
    If that is what you meant, why didn't you say that

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    While there are ladies sitting out, alone, looking like they are not enjoying themselves, I dance. I can never tell where the best dance of the evening will come from. In my top twenty dance memories is a dance with a lady that I asked simply because she looked like the most miserable person in the room. (It transpired that her boyfriend had just dumped her.) OTOH amongst my worst memories are a dance to a top tune with a top partner. (my fault)

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Why choose? I like Quality and Quantity...

    If I happen to get both at the same time, then


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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Quote Originally Posted by SnowWhite View Post
    Why choose?
    Because that's the topic of the thread? Expressing a preference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Because that's the topic of the thread? Expressing a preference?
    Then my preference is to have both...



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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowWhite View Post
    Then my preference is to have both...
    Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowWhite View Post
    Then my preference is to have both...


    you greedy mare xx

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    Re: Quality vs Quantity

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    you greedy mare xx
    Saying "I want it all" is not exactly advancing the discussion though, is it? We all want everything, but this thread is about choice.

    Or, possibly, about winding me up. But not both...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Saying "I want it all" is not exactly advancing the discussion though, is it? We all want everything, but this thread is about choice.

    Or, possibly, about winding me up. But not both...
    Ok.

    To expand on my 'both' thoughts. And I still think 'both' is a choice. Just like when I am asked if I would like custard or ice-cream with my dessert - both is my choice.

    Quality when dancing is what we strive for. With Quantity one hopes to find the dances of quality. If we don't, nothing is wasted, we still have had a night of good quantity if not the quality we had hoped for.

    If we do find the quality - the quantity is a bonus.

    Will you stop sighing at me now please?


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