I think you will find that this type of clause is unenforceable. It might even be illegal from the POV of the treaty of Rome.
I still remember my surprise when I read the Ceroc membership form. There was a clause that said, words to the effect of; if any part of this contract is found to be illegal it does not invalidate the rest of the contract. This is a clear indication to me that they knew a part of their contract was illegal.
This situation reminds me that you need to get everything in writing.
Ermmm - still is a successful venue if you don't mind !
Joseph used to teach Ceroc for Adam exclusively and left to set up on his own (as in Joseph and Tricia) . We even had a goodbye night ! They still pop in to the venues regularly and its always nice to see them.
Nigel (as in Nigel and Nina) also trained as a Ceroc teacher with Adam and again used to teach Ceroc classes exclusively for CerocMetro. They've done lots together including the JiveMasters .
So there are ways and there are ways - you choose the one that fits you best I suppose.
Sorry! Although, personally I'd prefer it if it were a little less successful, and there was room and chance to dance!
Ah - excellent examples. Thanks for being so helpful. It's was just that the only others I'd seen were quite negative. It's good to see that it can be done well....Joseph and Tricia....Nigel and Nina...
So there are ways and there are ways - you choose the one that fits you best I suppose.
Another recent example was Richard Oliver who left Watford before Xmas - as I recollect, he made a nice speech - as did some others - and no mention of what he was going to do.......
I think from what I could see it was all planned and professionally done. Everyone was happy (I think?).
I think he has set up somewhere else....is it Brighton? Maybe it's on another thread....
So as i have already said, the way somebody handles a departure shows you more of what that person is like deep down i think.
There is no reason for it to be done spitefully.... ever IMO, we all move on, we all want to do things on our own.
Trouble you are getting to be far too sensible in your posts
all joking apart i think the whole thing is about morality
either you have morals or you havent i know what i think of the people in question
surely thats just legal speak not that they knew the contract or part of it was illegal just that if anyone were to try to prove part of it were then the rest of the contract would still stand
shame you cant trust some people isnt it
As are almost all cerocmetro venues hopefully the new one opening tonight in Bishops Stortford will be as well
Could be its down to the fact that the crew in general are happy and they work for the fun of it and that although the teaching and the quality of the music are important the people who left st albans are not the only teachers and djs around
The latest email from Adam just received this morning, describes a few positive changes for St. Albans going forwards:
- it's going to start earlier (7.45) and they are looking to extend beyond 11pm.
- there will still be 3 classes
So the main issue - that people wanted more Freestyle - is being addressed.
In addition:
"Regarding the music, there will be more variety as requested by you."
.....that will be interesting......
All good news as far as I am concerned.
No it's not the end, just a new beginning. Both Amy and Marie are very good and will do a good job, but it is the dancers who make it what it is.
Good luck to Mick, Jo and John and if they are successful, then I am sure Ceroc will also benifit.
See all you lonely hearts at St Albans on Thursday. Don't forget to wear red.
Tattoos-eye review, The New Place, Monday 18th February
Seeing as there was no waistcoat for me to hide as a button in, I cunningly disguised myself as an extra tattoo on Mick's arm*, and snuck in last night to check the place out.
The venue itself is OK, a nice big hall - reminds me a bit of Finchley in fact... The directions on the site are rubbish, as they describe a roundabout which doesn't actually exist
The floor was OK, not wonderful - very bad by the bar area, a bit better by the stage.
The sound system didn't seem up to much, the quality wasn't very good.
It was reasonably busy - over 100 I reckon. Which is pretty much what you'd expect for a first night. Loads of women over, even by MJ standards. There were some new dancers, including some young people, so presumably they've been doing some marketing work.
One cringe-worthy moment was when Mick announced from the stage that they've got another night (there was a little woo hoo from the crowd) then he asked. "What night would you 'like' it on? How about a Tuesday?" - a couple more woo's from the class - then he asked "... da da DAAAA... What about a THURSDAY?" And then there were a few very loud - and obviously staged - cheers, but also a few, slightly stunned looking faces.
The classes were quite busy, but it did seem as though it fell a little flat later on for the freestyle. The atmosphere wasn't electric by any means - I think if I'd been a woman going by myself, I'd have had a pretty rubbish time, and lots of people left around 11pm.
Although it was quite funny, near the end of the evening, we had some drunken gate crashers, some of the students came in and started dancing, till security chucked them out
Other random observations:
- Nice to see Viktor taxi-ing
- There seemed to be more bags and coats around than I've ever seen anywhere before
- There were quite a few dancers from St Albans there, I recognised a few.
Overall impression? Meh, it's a standard MJ venue. And there wasn't a single Tango track played all night
* An orange-and-black dragon, if you're interested
ijig was brilliant, the floor was great and the atmosphere was kicking. Mick & Jo are a great couple, who are young, modern, bubbly, fun and fantastic teachers. There wasn't one person that didn't have a smile on their face, apart from the guy that sneaked in to check out the place on Ceroc's behalf.
In the latest email from Ceroc Metro it states that there are 2 new ('flagship') venues opening in South Herts (with 'huge' dance floors, full bars).........
I wonder what nights and which locations they will be? - Radlett, Bushey, Watford?...........Hatfield?
...and they are looking for crew and DJs (you need to have a wide knowledge of music, be a 'good' Ceroc dancer - and be able to drive).
....Exciting times: there is a wealth of choice around here through the week - and more to come!
Funny you should mention that Mick didn't call Adam to tell him he wasn't working for him anymore, but i know someone that was let go from CM that knew Adam and was very good friends with him for about 8/9 years and Adam never phoned him to tell him he didn't want him working for CM anymore, the guy found out through someone else. So CM aren't so innocent
Well thats something i didnt know which is not good practice But as the old saying goes two wrongs dont make a right
I have always found adam to be very good as far as his friends go he has always looked after me and all of the people i know and i have been in and around cm for 9 years now
And its odd that you posted the same comment twice on the same thread was this a mistake?
You are absolutely right it is a real shame that some vindictive people are dancers - and the rest of US are grown ups.
And being on the outside of CM i see both sides of the story very clearly, doesn't mean i have to agree with both.
But hey life goes on, and people move on. So lets all be happy
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