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    Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    I'm talking about moves such as the one you do from a catapult, where the leader ducks down and turns anticlockwise and swaps hands...there are a few others, but I can't remember the names of them.

    A follower I danced with the other night told me, that in her opinion, they looked slightly ridiculous, as if, in her words, 'the leader is scrabbling around on the floor for loose change'

    So...do moves where the leader as to duck down, bend below the waist etc, look ridiculous?

    And before anyone asks...I meant 'MJ'. not 'MK'

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    Re: Do MK moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    I take it you meant bending at the waist as opposed to bending below the waist too?

    FWIW, I think they look really naff, but that's just my opinion. If you genuinely like them, who cares what other people think.

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsichorea View Post
    And before anyone asks...I meant 'MJ'. not 'MK'
    Fixed

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsichorea View Post
    So...do moves where the leader as to duck down, bend below the waist etc, look ridiculous?
    They do if I try to do them, but I have seen (a very few) others do them and they looked good then.

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Depends on what the move is and who is doing it.

    There are a few decent moves that involve ducking down that look ok and others that don't. Brain isn't working enough this morn to do a description of the ones I think are ok.

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Bartholomew View Post
    Depends on what the move is and who is doing it.

    There are a few decent moves that involve ducking down that look ok and others that don't. Brain isn't working enough this morn to do a description of the ones I think are ok.
    There's one - I think it's a modification of something called a Cordoba? - where you go from a two-handed hold, and take your lefthand over the woman's head c/w so that you are back to back in a crossed hold. From here, you take your right hand over her hand c/w so that you are standing side by side. From here you duck, holding your hands lightly behind your back as you spin anti c/w twice, and then stand up facing the opposite direction. Bit of a pants description, I know.

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsichorea View Post
    I'm talking about moves such as the one you do from a catapult, where the leader ducks down and turns anticlockwise and swaps hands...there are a few others, but I can't remember the names of them.

    A follower I danced with the other night told me, that in her opinion, they looked slightly ridiculous, as if, in her words, 'the leader is scrabbling around on the floor for loose change'

    So...do moves where the leader as to duck down, bend below the waist etc, look ridiculous?

    And before anyone asks...I meant 'MJ'. not 'MK'

    For me I think its more to do with the individual

    If you look at people like Jamie the way the bend etc it looks great

    Take me if its taking 3 mins to get up again it doesn't look so good

    Some people make body rolls look great when I try it looks like im going to be sick

    So depends on person and timing and i guess duration as well

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    Re: Do MK moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    I take it you meant bending at the waist as opposed to bending below the waist too?

    FWIW, I think they look really naff, but that's just my opinion. If you genuinely like them, who cares what other people think.
    I don't tend to do them that often, but you know how it is, when you sometimes go into autopilot...

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    Re: Do MK moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsichorea View Post
    I don't tend to do them that often, but you know how it is, when you sometimes go into autopilot...
    I know how you feel. More than once I've been happily doing my favourite thing, thinking I'm looking good, then someone tells me how crap it is.

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    I think it depends on the move, who is doing it and how it is executed. If you are doing a move that you think looks naff then that will show when you dance it.

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    I don't think any move is inherently naff, it all depends on the style of the individual performing that move though I will concede that the prevailing fashions in MJ may favour certain types of move at any particular time.

    I quite like ducking moves for both lead and follow now. I never used to duck myself as I felt I was too tall to do it successfully but now I realise that much of it is an illusion and you actually do not have to get down as far as you might think you do. I can see that if you were keeping your knees locked and bending your upper torso forward and down at an angle that it may not be aesthetically pleasing (but then how much of MJ actually is?) and will play havoc with your balance.

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    For me I think its more to do with the individual

    If you look at people like Jamie the way the bend etc it looks great

    Take me if its taking 3 mins to get up again it doesn't look so good

    Some people make body rolls look great when I try it looks like im going to be sick

    So depends on person and timing and i guess duration as well


    Stewart has it dead right – some people can make it look great. The vast majority of us though, it's going to look crap.

    I haven't figured out what makes those people look good, but I think it's something to do with them being great dancers.
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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    The bend-at-the-waist move I do is a "Sway Pull Mans Nelson Duck"

    I love bend-at-the-waist moves, adds a new dimension to your dancing!

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post

    Some people make body rolls look great when I try it looks like im going to be sick
    Oh Stewart you do have me in fits.

    rep on its way. xxx

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    My advice is to stop worrying about how you look

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    Oh Stewart you do have me in fits.

    rep on its way. xxx
    I wasnt really trying to be funny

    I think people know what I mean, in this instance anyway

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie View Post
    The bend-at-the-waist move I do is a "Sway Pull Mans Nelson Duck"

    I love bend-at-the-waist moves, adds a new dimension to your dancing!
    I'll have to see that move this weekend!

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    If I didn't do these moves, I be buggered as to what to do. I like them and personally don't care however naff they may appear. I'm not trying to win competitions.

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    Quote Originally Posted by robd View Post
    it may not be aesthetically pleasing (but then how much of MJ actually is?)
    I think the vast majority of MJ moves simply do not look good, and a fair few do not even remind me of a dance at all. Often it looks like the aim of the game is to play an upright version of Twister, with the players holding hands.

    Dan

    P.S. Obviously dancing MJ can look damn good, and what it feels like for the partners is another thing altogether.

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    Re: Do MJ moves which involve bending below the waist look naff?

    All depends on how they're done - as the step does attract attention to the guy.
    It also depends on whether the steps compliment the style of music. eg if you're dancing some romantic piece, then "yes" they look naff. The step used as the original example usually suits more "playful" styles of music and choreography.

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