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Thread: Is MJ a Swing dance (Does the music define the dance?)

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    Re: Famous with out consent?

    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    Now WCS is another matter - take away the swing, and it becomes WC - so I can understand why WC(S)ers are so keen to keep that definition...
    moi, really I don't care how what I do is called: I dance what I like the most :-)

    but for having had this conversation with her, try and tell Tatiana Mollman she's not dancing swing...

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    Re: Famous with out consent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caro View Post
    moi, really I don't care how what I do is called: I dance what I like the most :-)

    but for having had this conversation with her, try and tell Tatiana Mollman she's not dancing swing...
    Why - do you think she'd benefit from that knowledge?

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    Re: Is MJ a Swing dance (Does the music define the dance?)

    My tuppenorth to this is that I always used to find it really difficult to lead ladies who did (what I perceived as) swing footwork when I had experience only in MJ. Since starting to learn WCS I have become a lot more comfortable in that situation though maybe that's simply that I have more dancing experience full stop rather than the WCS experience specifically?

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    Re: Famous with out consent?

    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    Why - do you think she'd benefit from that knowledge?
    that, or you'd benefit from a bit of slapping, I'm not sure

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    Re: Famous with out consent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caro View Post
    that, or you'd benefit from a bit of slapping, I'm not sure
    Sounds like an overly violent reaction... would you say this is a particular sore point for her then? (not knowing the lady myself, I wouldn't be able to say)

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    Re: Famous with out consent?

    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    Sounds like an overly violent reaction... would you say this is a particular sore point for her then? (not knowing the lady myself, I wouldn't be able to say)
    well it was more a figure of speech than anything else - she's a sweetheart really and she knows she does swing

    but yes, there have been discussions around the swing content of routines, lately, and some judges seem to be going a bit ott at times, I'm told...

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    Re: Famous with out consent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caro View Post
    but yes, there have been discussions around the swing content of routines, lately, and some judges seem to be going a bit ott at times, I'm told...
    How so?

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    Re: Famous with out consent?

    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    How so?
    there's a bit more info here...

    But basically NASDE (the organisation that deals with the 12 biggest comp for classic, showcase and strictly swing pro/champions) rules require 80% of swing content in classic and 50% in showcase (to allow for lifts). Given that there is more and more tricks in classic routines, some judges feel at times that this does violate the 80% rule. I was at BBB (ref the link above) and did have a look at the scoring sheets and it is true that all couples received at least one 'borderline swing content violation' (incl. J&T, who won the division), some receiving several 'swing content violations' therefore were disqualified (I remember at least one couple).


    Forgot to add too that some wcs pros seemed to have said that they believed MJ would qualify as being 'swing' (look at the swing thread on the MJDA forum).
    Last edited by Caro; 18th-January-2008 at 01:41 PM. Reason: forgot a bit

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