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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by timbp View Post
    I can't cite references, but I think that one in ten includes people who try it once and decide they are not interested.
    There's some information here:
    Demographics of sexual orientation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As always, it depends on your definition.

    It's like asking how many MJ-ers there are - do you count everyone who's ever experimented with MJ? Regular practicing (!) MJ-ers? People who do MJ occasiionally but prefer AT?

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by andystyle View Post
    Actually, I said that the Biblical teaching was that homosexuality was a sin. Not all Christians accept this, as Baruch has said.
    There is nothing wrong with homosexuality. All humans are created in God's image, so all are attractive.

    Sex outside of marriage is a sin.
    Two people of the same sex cannot marry.

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by timbp View Post
    There is nothing wrong with homosexuality. All humans are created in God's image, so all are attractive.

    Sex outside of marriage is a sin.
    Two people of the same sex cannot marry.
    Err... a bit of a Catch-22, in other words?

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Donna View Post
    Hmmm this is quiet interesting.

    Not that I'm saying I actually believe in what I also heard about such miracles, but drugs were used quite a lot in those days too. Sometimes you have to question whether or not they were real, or just hallucinations.
    ...or just plain inventions.

    You know, fiction.

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Err... a bit of a Catch-22, in other words?
    I agree!

    There'd be a lot wrong with homosexuality if a) you couldn't practice sex outside of marriage and b) you couldn't marry either!! It would be a nightmare.

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by timbp View Post
    Sex outside of marriage is a sin.
    Perhaps - but one ignored by the majority of people and not relevant in todays world.

    Quote Originally Posted by timbp View Post
    Two people of the same sex cannot marry.
    Yes they can. It is still called "civil union" so that Daily Mail readers don't get too upset, but it is marriage in all but name.

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    I agree!

    There'd be a lot wrong with homosexuality if a) you couldn't practice sex outside of marriage and b) you couldn't marry either!! It would be a nightmare.
    A nightmare?
    Or hell?

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by timbp View Post
    Sex outside of marriage is a sin.
    Oh Crap...! Shall I get myself fitted for the red devil suit now or wait until I'm pushing daisies?




    By the way, I hate to repeat myself, but Mary wasn't married.


    Slut....!

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    By the way, I hate to repeat myself, but Mary wasn't married.
    And what relevance does that have?

    Do you still believe all unmarried women are virgin?

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by timbp View Post
    And what relevance does that have?
    Have you read this thread? The relevance is that Mary had a child out of wedlock and I don't believe (as it is biologically impossible) that it was an immaculate conception.

    Her and old Joey boy were doing the old horizontal modern jive out of wedlock. End of story.


    Quote Originally Posted by timbp View Post
    Do you still believe all unmarried women are virgin?
    Now who's being irrelevant?

    I'm calling you Roger from now on.


    Anyway...this thread is what I like to call a "Ground Hog Day" thread.



    NEXT....!

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    Have you read this thread? The relevance is that Mary had a child out of wedlock and I don't believe (as it is biologically impossible) that it was an immaculate conception.
    Exactly my point. The thread title is about Mary's virginity. My post was about marriage (and I was trying to be funny; obviously I failed).

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    There's some information here:
    Demographics of sexual orientation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As always, it depends on your definition.

    It's like asking how many MJ-ers there are - do you count everyone who's ever experimented with MJ? Regular practicing (!) MJ-ers? People who do MJ occasiionally but prefer AT?
    Or people who have heard about MJ, want to go, but haven't attended.

    Some gays are married, usually because they need to have children for heriditary purposes (ie A Duke), or because they need to be seen as "conventional" so that they can climb the greasy pole career wise. (dosn't stop them dallying though. These are usually the ones that go to Clapham Common).

    Others live in far flung villages where predudice is high and everyone would find out.
    Usually gays have to move to the cities to escape predudice.
    San Francisco, for instance, has a 17% rate if I've understood the Wikipedia correctly.

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    Mary had a child out of wedlock and I don't believe (as it is biologically impossible) that it was an immaculate conception.

    Her and old Joey boy were doing the old horizontal modern jive out of wedlock. End of story.
    It's far from the end of the story. If there is a God and if he is powerful enough to create the universe, as I seem to remember you said you believed (haven't re-read this thread recently), why is it so hard to believe he could cause a virgin to become pregnant? It's only impossible if there is no God.

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Astro View Post
    Some gays are married, usually because they need to have children for heriditary purposes (ie A Duke), or because they need to be seen as "conventional" so that they can climb the greasy pole career wise. (dosn't stop them dallying though. These are usually the ones that go to Clapham Common).

    Others live in far flung villages where predudice is high and everyone would find out.
    Usually gays have to move to the cities to escape predudice.
    San Francisco, for instance, has a 17% rate if I've understood the Wikipedia correctly.
    Phew...could you generalise a bit more?

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Feet View Post
    Phew...could you generalise a bit more?
    Well, I meant that some people are gay, but remain virgins, because they think it is wrong for them to be gay. This is due to the religious view which forbids it.

    Other's are gay, but will marry a woman because they need an heir, or because not being married would affect their career.

    Even some hetrosexual males only marry because some companies only promote married men.

    These reasons may skewer the figures and make them lower than they really are.
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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Baruch View Post
    I seem to remember you said you believed


    Quote Originally Posted by Baruch View Post
    (haven't re-read this thread recently)
    No shlt, Sherlock.



    I said I believed that Mary and Joseph were real people. The rest is all Jackanory. It's Father Christmas for adults...nothing more.

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    I said I believed that Mary and Joseph were real people. The rest is all Jackanory. It's Father Christmas for adults...nothing more.
    Fair enough, perhaps I should have re-read the thread before replying. So you don't believe in God. Then at least what you're saying is consistent with what you say you believe. I still disagree though - it all hinges on whether God is real or not, and on that issue I doubt the two sides of the debate will ever reach agreement.

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Baruch View Post
    Latter Day Saints: not generally accepted as Christians.

    Not universally accepted by Christians.
    But didn't Christ appear to them much more recently than he appeared to the apostles after the crucifixion? So surely they are closer to Christ?

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by timbp View Post
    But didn't Christ appear to them much more recently than he appeared to the apostles after the crucifixion? So surely they are closer to Christ?
    but clearly anyone you are talking too will insist you believe their version of events over other peoples - best agree with everyone and steer the conversation toward rock bands and lingerie...

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    Re: Mary was not a virgin...!

    Quote Originally Posted by timbp View Post
    But didn't Christ appear to them much more recently than he appeared to the apostles after the crucifixion? So surely they are closer to Christ?
    Er...no.

    Christ hasn't appeared to anyone - despite rumours to the contrary. Saints, including Jesus' mother, are popping in and out for tea etc. all the time (not to mention appearing on foodstuffs, inanimate objects, cloud formations and so forth) but not Jesus. He stopped after his ascension.

    But even (descending to their level) by their own lights the Mormons, AFAIK, do not believe that Joseph Smith saw Jesus. He saw the angel Moron.

    I'm sorry, that's Moroni.

    Moroni explained the way in which contemporary christianity had deviated from or misunderstood the teachings of Jesus and Joseph started a new religion.

    Amongst other things, Moroni explained that negroes were descendants of the inhabitants of the Land of Nod, therefore they all have the mark of Cain and this possibly explains why blacks were excluded from positions of authority in Mormonism until, oh, a couple of decades ago.

    Interestingly, Mrs Smith - a bit of a sceptic apparently, tut tut - hid the first version of the 'gospel' that the angel had been dictating (via a stone in a hat, into which Mr Smith would plunge his face), and pretended to have lost it. Poor Mr Smith was obliged to have the angel dictate the gospel all over again.

    Naughty Mrs Smith discovered many, many discrepancies between the two versions...shockingly, large numbers of people in Ohio concluded that Joseph Smith was making it all up!! Whereas, obviously, er, well obviously the angel - um - had thought of a better way to tell the story in the interim...

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