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    A humble announcement

    I have chosen these humble portals in which to announce my amazing and world-shattering discovery of a fifth fundamental force!! That's right, a fifth one.

    Most if not all of you will know that science recognises four fundamental forces: gravity, electromagnetic force, the strong nuclear force and the weak nuclear force. Part of modern physics is the endeavour to rationalise these four forces, which are thought to be aspects of a single phenomenon.

    Well, after exhaustive research, following what must have been several minutes of radical application of the thought processes, I have discovered another force, equally fundamental but - what is more important - far more mysterious.

    The name of this force?

    I call it 'the contact lens force'.

    The force seems to manifest itself especially vigorously during the process of inserting or removing contact lenses - hence its name.

    Here are the observations that led me to this discovery.

    The contact lens sits, overnight, in the container within which cleaning fluid cleans the lenses and an acid/alkali reaction creates cavitation bubbling to dislodge particles from the lenses. In the morning, the wearer opens the container and takes out the two-lens storage device.

    Here is the first observation. The lenses show a decided and vigorous preference for the cage in which they sit. Place your finger on the lens and it sticks to its cage. Place your finger under the lens and it slides off, and sticks to its cage. (All this, of course, takes fractions of a second.) Eventually, however, the lens can be persuaded to slide onto your finger.

    It then transfers its affections to the finger, and the lens attaches itself to the fingertip. Now, you cannot then apply the lens to the eye, because it will probably be inside out. It is, therefore, necessary to transfer it elsewhere, and then turn it around, so that you can then transfer it so that it sits on top of the fingertip, ready for transfer to the eyeball.

    And here is where the unusual nature of the contact lens force comes into play. The lens displays a negative affinity to the finger, as before, but this time it clings - in my case, to the back of my left hand, near the thumb, which I use as a platform to 'flip' the lens over. The result is that the lens becomes almost impossible to manoeuvre, sliding along the left hand ahead of the index finger, twisting out of the way, sliding around and under the right index finger, even on occasions doing a full somersault to land back on the left hand, the same way up as before.

    So we come to my first verifiable deduction about the contact lens force. It is a weak force - like gravity, for example. This deduction follows from the fact that the exertion of brute force relatively swiftly enables the index finger to overbear the lens until at last it sits on the tip of the finger.

    Now the contact lens force displays a perverse difference with other forces. Previously, the lens displays a disinclination to move. Now, once on the index finger, and during the rather precarious journey from the back of the left hand to the eye, the lens seeks to part company with the substrate on which it is mounted. This results in it jumping clear off the finger, on many occasions, and springing off onto the bathroom floor.

    (There are, of course, many areas where further investigation into the contact lens force will almost certainly pay dividends. It occurs to me that the behaviour of the lens may be explained by a very strong affinity for bathroom floors, especially the bits behind the sink and lavatory pedestals, where cobwebs and shed hair collect. I have marked this hypothesis for detailed research - putting the lenses on in the living room, for example.)

    Occasionally it is possible - with no little anticipation and a great deal of familiarity with the contact lens force - to catch the lens, with the left hand, as it leaps from the fingertip and before it locates the bathroom floor. Then the process begins again since in this situation - and without exception - the lens is once again in a situation where it has to be moved around on the left hand in order to be transferred onto the index finger for insertion.

    When, eventually, the lens is placed on the eyeball, the final manifestation of the force is observed. Of course, the lens seeks to put as much distance between it and the index finger as possible. Occasionally, the lens even shoots across the surface of the eye and squeezes between the eyeball and the socket. This induces instant agony in the part of the wearer, who can probably be observed doubled up in pain, crouched on the floor and shouting 'Feck! Ow, ow, oh feckin' heck!'

    Naturally, and since the contact lens force is here being described and explained for the first time, the lens wearer begins trying to pull the lens out from where it is - with the right index finger! Of course this is the least effective solution, and eventually we have to rely on the contact lens force to move the lens back across the eyeball and sit on the iris and pupil.

    At the end of the day, the situation is reversed. However, I suspect that the contact lens force waxes and wanes during the course of the day because this process - of removing the lens from the eye and putting it into the cage to be cleaned overnight - is usually completed a great deal more easily than the morning ordeal.

    So there we go. The contact lens force. (Naturally, I do not expect the Nobel prize but I do not see how the committee can ignore me...)

    My next project will be to investigate further how the contact lens force interacts with the eye. At this time it is unclear why the lens reacts in the same way with the eyeball as it does with the back of the left hand, both of which, as set out above, considerably different from its antipathy to the index finger.

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    Barry, for once I know exactly what you mean.

    And to save one area of research for you, I can confirm that the force has an equal attraction to bedroom floors, dressing tables, make-up drawers and all other dust and fluff encrusted surfaces.

    However one aspect that you have omitted is the increased effect of the contact lens force when you're not in arms reach of your glasses when one has ejected itself from your digit... i.e. it's much more likely to happen if you can't see your glasses (which in my case is pretty much anywhere, but particularly likely when I've left said glasses in the bathroom).

    And thinking of it, you've also overlooked the ability of this force to make the lens appear to be the right way out, but somehow to reverse it's concave nature on it's way into your eye... also resulting in the behaviour and language described above when the lens lodges between eyeball and socket. In addition, your newly discovered force then causes the reversed lens to stick to the lens as if it's been attached with super glue...

    I urge you on to further research to discover how this force can be harnessed for the benefit of all mankind...

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    You also forgot to mention how the contact lens force leaps into action whilst performing the daily ritual of cleaning your lens. I like to douse mine in lens solution before inserting into my eye. Hpefully this last oct of washing will clear of all above said dust collecting. Just as you think you got it cleaned, it rather annoyingly closes in on itself, apparently preventing further soaking... The whole process of changing from one index finger to another starts all over again.

    I have noticed that when you are in a hurry, this happens more and also when you have applied make up, and you decide last minute to wear your lenses, the little buggers decide to wee down your face.....

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    Two very interesting posts, demonstrating the scientific method in action!!

    Thank you Twirly. Your evidential input on the effect of the contact lens force in other rooms is helpful, since further research in that area can be postponed after more urgent areas have been investigated.

    I'm very interested in your theory that the proximity of spectacles has a 'suppressing' effect on the contact lens force . That is definitely a fruitful field for further investigation. Might I propose that you arrange for the glasses to be at different measured distances from where you are attempting to insert your lenses, and let us know whether the 'suppressive effect' is indeed correlated with distance.

    Now Jeanag - your observation about the effect of the contact lens force on the lens itself is possibly an important breakthrough. This leads to interest possibilities in the way that the contact lens force propagates at the sub-atomic level through the lens. I shall give this some further consideration...

    And, I suppose, I might as well ensure that I am able to profit from my discovery and so therefore I assert a proprietary right over the contact lens force ©. It may seem cheap and moneygrabbing but I'm confident that if he had made his discoveries in 2005 instead of 1905, Albert Einstein would have copyrighted relativity as well. (I mean, he worked in the patent office, so nothing easier, right?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanag View Post
    I have noticed that when you are in a hurry, this happens more and also when you have applied make up, and you decide last minute to wear your lenses, the little buggers decide to wee down your face.....
    Ok not the make-up bit, but if I'm running late and in a real hurry, that's the morning when I get dust on the lenses/they don't clean properly/don't go in straight and it takes me ages to move them around my eye.

    However there is something your theory doesn't explain - if contact lenses are so awkward, how do I manage to always take them out, even when really really drunk? I've only woken up twice in the middle of the night with contact lenses still in my eyes, even though I've been wearing them virtually every day for the last 19 years. I've been so drunk that I don't remember getting home, but when I wake up feeling rough the following morning, my contact lenses have magically appeared in my contact lens case somewhere vaguely close to my bed. Barry - can you explain how your theory fits with this please?

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    lens fairies - helpers of the drunk and disorderly

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    Back in the days when I wore hard contact lenses, I once dropped one when removing it, over the toilet sink in the students' union bar. It fell under the sink. I crouched down, to find that not long previously, some drunken student had smashed a beer glass. So there I was, slightly drunk, looking for one regular piece of glass in amongst 3000 other bits.

    Whenever I watch the opening sequence from Temple of Doom, I feel Indiana Jones pain

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    Can I suggest to everyone that they consider daily lenses? They're so much less hassle.
    Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story

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    I really shoud wear lenses, I only wear glasses for computing and struggle to recognise people when Im out

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi View Post
    Can I suggest to everyone that they consider daily lenses? They're so much less hassle.
    Smarty pants i would but my astigaism (can't spell it *before* you all start...) is so bad I was told dailies wouldn't work for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi View Post
    Can I suggest to everyone that they consider daily lenses? They're so much less hassle.
    Are you advancing the hypothesis that the contact lens force © doesn't affect daily lenses?

    I can see how the contact lens force © might be impossible to experience while throwing daily lenses away, but my hypothesis is that it affects them just as strongly when you put them in in the morning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi View Post
    Can I suggest to everyone that they consider daily lenses? They're so much less hassle.
    You've obviously got more midoclorians than me, and are able to resist the contact lens force type thingy better than me. Soft lenses would just curl up, and would be even harder to get in my eyes! I know my limitations, and I think I'll stick with hard lenses.


    Apologies to any Star Wars fans if I've spelt midoclorians wrongly, but I wonder how The Force (copyright George Lucus) would cope with Barry's Contact Lens Force. Which would win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveK View Post
    However there is something your theory doesn't explain - if contact lenses are so awkward, how do I manage to always take them out, even when really really drunk? I've only woken up twice in the middle of the night with contact lenses still in my eyes, even though I've been wearing them virtually every day for the last 19 years. I've been so drunk that I don't remember getting home, but when I wake up feeling rough the following morning, my contact lenses have magically appeared in my contact lens case somewhere vaguely close to my bed. Barry - can you explain how your theory fits with this please?
    Well, in keeping with the best of modern scientists - McKeith, Behe, Dembski et al - I scoff at peer reviewed publication, which is long winded and pompous and causes unnecessary delays. I have determined to go straight to the media with my discovery, so that the benighted general public may the sooner benefit from my monumental insights.

    Consequently - er - the pressure to move with some speed has meant that I am still (with my lab team, obviously) working on some of the fine aspects of the theory.

    You will see, however, if you re-read the announcement carefully, that I cautiously expressed the possibility that the the contact lens force © waxes and wanes. (I am open to the possibility that the contact lens force © is associated with solar proximity, that is, there is some amelioration of the the contact lens force © due to the bulk of the earth between the lens and the sun.) In any event, I had already noted the lessening of the effect towards the end of the day.

    However, your post raises the interesting possiblity of some connection between alcohol and the contact lens force ©. I would be interested - should you care to do further research - in your additional conclusions.

    You may wish to PM me in respect of the possibility that we could apply for funding for your experiment - how much alcohol do you think you would get through?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    Well, in keeping with the best of modern scientists - McKeith, Behe, Dembski et al - I scoff at peer reviewed publication, which is long winded and pompous and causes unnecessary delays. I have determined to go straight to the media with my discovery, so that the benighted general public may the sooner benefit from my monumental insights.

    Consequently - er - the pressure to move with some speed has meant that I am still (with my lab team, obviously) working on some of the fine aspects of the theory.

    You will see, however, if you re-read the announcement carefully, that I cautiously expressed the possibility that the the contact lens force © waxes and wanes. (I am open to the possibility that the contact lens force © is associated with solar proximity, that is, there is some amelioration of the the contact lens force © due to the bulk of the earth between the lens and the sun.) In any event, I had already noted the lessening of the effect towards the end of the day.

    However, your post raises the interesting possiblity of some connection between alcohol and the contact lens force ©. I would be interested - should you care to do further research - in your additional conclusions.

    You may wish to PM me in respect of the possibility that we could apply for funding for your experiment - how much alcohol do you think you would get through?
    Barry, I think they've improved the peer review process somewhat recently...


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveK View Post
    Ok not the make-up bit, but if I'm running late and in a real hurry, that's the morning when I get dust on the lenses/they don't clean properly/don't go in straight and it takes me ages to move them around my eye.

    However there is something your theory doesn't explain - if contact lenses are so awkward, how do I manage to always take them out, even when really really drunk? I've only woken up twice in the middle of the night with contact lenses still in my eyes, even though I've been wearing them virtually every day for the last 19 years. I've been so drunk that I don't remember getting home, but when I wake up feeling rough the following morning, my contact lenses have magically appeared in my contact lens case somewhere vaguely close to my bed. Barry - can you explain how your theory fits with this please?
    See, it doesn't work like that for me. I started wearing lenses when I was working for Customs and Excise - I would rummage a ship, full of dust and other contact lense hating stuff, not a problem - the minute I would go out and drink - couldn't get them out, not for the life of me. One memorable night was spent at Uluru in Australia, not gazing at the beautiful sunset, having a nice time... no. I was a little plastered I have to admit (it wasn't my fault, blame the now husband!) - I spent ages trying to get my finger into my eye, kept missing and when I did hit the mark, my distance judgement wasn't that great and all I got was a finger in the eye, tears were rolling down my face, Boyfriend offered to help - NO, said I, I'll be fine (imagine that being said in a slurry highland accent) - 40 minutes later I was still there, poking myself in the eye and saying that I would be fine - finally got them out when I started to sober up - in the morning........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezzosoprano View Post
    I spent ages trying to get my finger into my eye, kept missing and when I did hit the mark, my distance judgement wasn't that great and all I got was a finger in the eye, tears were rolling down my face
    Ah, now, you see, that's classic contact lens force © at work. It wasn't your distance perception that was at fault, it was the force field around the lens that was deflecting the finger...


    How very interesting...

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    * Isis, the High Priestess of the Contact Lens Force (from long before silly scientists noticed it), uses the knowledge from her magic book to put everyone in the thread into an hypnotic trance*

    YOU WILL ALL GO TO ASDA OPTICIANS

    YOU WILL ALL BUY CIBA VISION LENSES

    (and I don't work for/have shares in either company, they're both just good.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twirly View Post
    I urge you on to further research to discover how this force can be harnessed for the benefit of all mankind...
    I'd help honey but I'm busy trying to solve the worlds energy problems with this slice of buttered toast and this cat.. .. ..


    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi View Post
    When were you told that? I think there are now daily lenses suitable for astigmatism sufferers.

    Edit: yup, there are.
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    there are? To Specsavers !! and don't spare the horses !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf1970 View Post
    I'd help honey but I'm busy trying to solve the worlds energy problems with this slice of buttered toast and this cat.. .. ..
    How does that work then? Some sort of perpetual motion machine involving tying the toast to the cat's tail making it rush round in circles...hmm.

    Still, I'm keen to foster independent research and if you submit a proposal to me I will happily fund it out of my Nobel prize money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov
    How does that work then? Some sort of perpetual motion machine involving tying the toast to the cat's tail making it rush round in circles...hmm.
    This is based on the princple that cats always land on their feet and buttered toast always falls butter side down, so if you tie a piece of buttered toast to a cat's back, nature doesn't know what to do, and the cat hovers, defying gravity.
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