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"If you're going to do something tonight, that you know you'll be sorry for in the morning, plan a lie in." Lorraine
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Leroy (Satchel) Paige (1906-1982)
Mickey Mouse's girlfriend, Minnie, made her film debut, along with Mickey, in "Steamboat Willie" on November 18, 1928.
That date is recognized as her official birthday.
I'm not entirely sure but I get the impression pjfrad is part of Peter and Amy, something of a competition winner, and headline teacher. If so atypical by definition on both counts.
From a high level/serious competitor I'd expect that to be the case.
It might be interesting to have a poll which showed the proportion of serious competitors who preferred weekenders, and the proportion of non competitors who preferred competitions.
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Breeze had the Blues competition, and Chill had a DWAS.
I think it'd be good for more weekenders to have small competitions – at least a DWAS, and maybe something a bit more serious for those who especially like to compete.
Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story
Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story
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"If you're going to do something tonight, that you know you'll be sorry for in the morning, plan a lie in." Lorraine
--ooOoo--
Age is a question of mind over matter, if you don't mind, it doesn't matter
Leroy (Satchel) Paige (1906-1982)
Mickey Mouse's girlfriend, Minnie, made her film debut, along with Mickey, in "Steamboat Willie" on November 18, 1928.
That date is recognized as her official birthday.
Though if actually doing a poll I'd probably split it into at least 3 competitive options, to make the poll different enough - giving 6 total options.
1) Serious about competing.
2) Casual competitor.
1) Don't compete or very seldom compete.
I don't think a poll should be changed after people have voted though, unless it doesn't change the meaning of their vote, so if this poll was changed it would need an additional option to cover the existing votes if they are left unchanged, of unspecified competitive status or suchlike. Overall probably too complex a change to want to do.
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As Minnie said, I think it's great to have both, like the events in the US.
Sometimes competitions drag on a little, but seeing the champs division is just breath-taking and sooo inspiring it just makes you want to get on the floor and dance!!!
I've had MsFab in stitches by saying : 'you'd have to be completely crazy to miss the champions JnJ... this is Youtube LIVE' I still don't understand what's so funny about it but hey
I think that the two combined is a great idea as you get to go to Workshops taught be the top end competitors and judges. I can't wait until the UK WCS championships in Weston next year and then we can see how well it works here in the UK.
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Yes, that's me, my cover is blown .
Whilst I understand that I am going to be somewhat bias, let me try to explain what it is I like.
Obviously I love to compete and take it reasonably seriously, but when competing in my early days in the intermediate and advanced categories I would sit and watch the Masters categories (the top level in Australia) in awe. This is where I got to watch the best dancers dancing at their best and pulling out all of the stops. As much as i love to dance I also love to watch good dancing. I still watch dancing constantly on my Ipod when on the train.
Also these competitions gave me access to these amazing dancers that I could talk to, ask questions of, grill for information, etc...
Don't get me wrong I also love a good weekender where I can party and dance all night, but for me a weekender is really about dancing and classes from great teachers and a comp is about watching dancing and great dancers (and now competing).
Going to a WCS comp in the US I wouldn't be a high level (or even a below average level) competitor, however I would still love it to get to sit and watch the best.
It you had both together, where I could watch the best dancers do their best, and take classes from them and dance the night away
Peter
A weekender is where I get to see people dancing their best.
A championship is where I get to see people putting on a great show.
I ticked weekender - I don't do many, but one of the joys of Bliss was just watching people dance (and then being able to get up and join them).
I'm not such a great dancer - dancing even in freestyle at competitions can be a bit intimidating, though I still enjoyed the Ceroc champs this year.
Having given this some more thought, I'm now becoming strongly against the idea of combining competitions with weekenders..
Here's my random thoughts....
As I said, a 'small' fun DWAS or novelty competition (blindfolds, or only left hand moves, etc.) that doesn't take up too much time, is OK but I'm imagining what it'd be like, if the likes of Southport teamed up with a serious 'championship' competition.. IMO, it'd be a disaster!
I can see it now, you'd have a two tier hierarchy, the competitors and the non competitors.
All the competitors would probably spend Friday night practising solely with their partners and then go to bed early.
And the non competitors would feel less important as they'd merely become 'spectators'
The dilemma's would be enormous..
..would you join in, simply cos you wouldn't want to feel bored or left out Would you watch and support your friends and miss dancing yourself And If you chose to dance, would there be anyone good left to dance with
Also, I think if ever there's been feeling of cliqueness in the past (i.e. the WCS room saga), it fear it would be nothing compared to what would happen in this situation!
One of the great things about weekenders, is, its so inclusive
In my eyes, the only night that would be any good, would be Sunday night, when it was all over!
I know i'd definitely give it a wide birth!
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As far as I am concerned, weekenders can have as many competitions as they wish provided it's not in the main room
I pretty much agree with you, but I think there's a place for a slightly more serious competition that would appeal to a limited number of entrants (or only be open to a limited number.)
I'm thinking of something like the 'JiveMasters' competition that used to happen, or maybe just a competition amongst the folks teaching over the weekend.
Limited in scale, but still entertaining for the punters...
Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story
Well it all depends upon the competition. Faced with this exact choice this weekend (sort of), I picked a weekend of dancing over the Midland 'Champs'. Judging by the very low numbers I wasn't alone in making this choice.
But if it was the proper London champs, then that's where I would have been. So it's a bit misleading for me to tick either option - as the accurate answer is 'pends.
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