Blimey, Franco should go into politics if he stops running Jive events.
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Originally Posted by Franco
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Age is a question of mind over matter, if you don't mind, it doesn't matter
Leroy (Satchel) Paige (1906-1982)
Mickey Mouse's girlfriend, Minnie, made her film debut, along with Mickey, in "Steamboat Willie" on November 18, 1928.
That date is recognized as her official birthday.
Blimey, Franco should go into politics if he stops running Jive events.
The last Camber, run by Jivetime that I went to, the gender balance was SO BAD, (at times it felt as though it was 5 women to every man, in the blues room. ) I swore i'd never attend another, until unequivocal assurances were made, that drastic measures would be taken the address the situation.
Franco decided to put it to the vote and ask his punters to choose, 'for or against gender balancing' (which was a brave thing to do) and in the end 'against' won, by apparently, a very small majority.
Also, Franco said he'd been advised by some legal experts, that gender balancing was illegal and he was afraid of being taken to court.
So, in the end, he devised a system (which I never fully understood) where he would sell, 'lead' and 'follow' tickets and then females who wanted to get in when all the ladies ticket had been sold, could get in by saying they would lead.
This happened around the same time as Ceroc started their weekenders (which are strictly gender balanced) started up, and Southport was already up and running a gender balancing system.
so, that was it for me, i'm afraid
Now, I wonder if this new joint venture will be 'Gender balanced'?
I shall watch this space with interest!
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"If you're going to do something tonight, that you know you'll be sorry for in the morning, plan a lie in." Lorraine
I don't think lead/follow vs male/female have much practical significance, in the same way as Jive Addiction's switch to gender based entry tickets.
The biggest difference is that Jive Time has a much bigger band of tolerance which limits maximum imbalance but allows some imbalance.
Jive Addiction and Ceroc must have similar systems though we assume the tolerances to be much narrower.
Unlike Jive Time I haven't seen them published though. I don't know either are truly 'strict' especially where they don't sell out.
In any case aren't there enough narrow tolerance weekenders already ?
I find i very sad that the origonal camber events are drawing to a close I have attended many and enjoyed them all. however all is flux and if you fail to adapt in business you die lets hope something good rises from the ashes.
It is not the end, it might be the end of solo produced.
All power to Franco, who did the first MJ weekender (as far as I know) ... there was Rock 'n' roll and Lindy weekends before, but he put MJ weekenders - on a large scale, on the map.
If there is an oppertunity to cash up and still provide a weekend of fun, still all good... don't forget folks this is a business, and it happens in business all the time.
I was fortunate enough to teach at his very first weekender and have always supported him every time I am "in the area".
Of course people will see the product and then improve the product, the most shinning example being Southport with Wes and Jon. He he, how lucky am I , I got to teach at the first Southport as well.
Then some will come and Blast or Blitz the oppertunity and try to put on too many too soon... It happens, hopefully it will end up positive...
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Age is a question of mind over matter, if you don't mind, it doesn't matter
Leroy (Satchel) Paige (1906-1982)
Mickey Mouse's girlfriend, Minnie, made her film debut, along with Mickey, in "Steamboat Willie" on November 18, 1928.
That date is recognized as her official birthday.
And us guys don't like battling our way through 3 rows of women just to get a drink or go to the loo.
When Franco told me that there was a change afoot I guessed that Jive Time would end up being part of another organisation that runs weekenders. My hope is that Jive Time becomes part of Jive Addiction or Rock Bottoms. It would be a shame if he became part of Ceroc as he'd have difficulty having any kind of say in anything - he might as well sell out to Ceroc.
Then again, maybe Franco is buying Ceroc
Maybe they did
I'm just saying that 'I' didn't.
Yes, probably and I don't have a problem with
organisations who choose not to, as we now have alternatives to choose from.
So everyone can be happy
And Camber (Jivetime) was 'my' first weekender too and I had an absolute ball, it still remains one of my fondest memories but times have moved on and other organisations have IMHO improved on the standards Franco set!
I'm not whinging, as I have 'lots' of choice now and no longer have to suffer it
for you, maybe not!ps it was never more then 3/4 deep
Love you really Stew!
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"If you're going to do something tonight, that you know you'll be sorry for in the morning, plan a lie in." Lorraine
Well, clearly you're just a miserable weirdo then, determined not to have fun.
Or, possibly, that 95% figure was complete b0ll0x, and lots of others felt the same way as you, but you're one of the few with the guts to openly admit it.
I know where my money is on.
Note to Bluey: "only" 5% complaints does not mean that 95% were ecstatic.
Obviously there will be more men this time then pleaseeeeeeee
Unless you live in a cave or are totally new to Jive/ceroc your going to know the imbalance is likely to be higher at Francos then Southport etc
So why do all these women still go ?? Cant do Southport, cant do Swish hey wait till next June ?
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